Robert Rand interview
Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 2:40 p.m.
Robert "Big Bobby" Rand arrived at the Yoknapatawpha County Sheriff's Department and demanded to speak with detectives involved with his son's arrest. Mr. Rand appeared to be in a highly agitated state. Detectives Armstrong and Murphy talked to him in an interview room at the YCSD. The interview was recorded with the witness's knowledge and consent.
- Detective T. Armstrong
- Detective S. Murphy
- Robert Rand
Robert Rand: What have you done with my son?
Detective Armstrong: Mr. Rand, why don't you come in here and have a seat.
Robert Rand: I don't want to have a seat. I want to know what you've done with my son.
Detective Armstrong: Well, sir, he's over at the jail. He–
Robert Rand: I know all that. Why won't you let me see him?
Detective Armstrong: Sir? I'm not sure what you mean. If you just go to the jail–
Robert Rand: I went to the jail. I'm not some kind of idiot. They wouldn't let me see him.
Detective Armstrong: Did they say why?
Robert Rand: They said my name wasn't on the list or some such nonsense. Why do I need to be on a list? He's my son!
Detective Murphy: Sir, I can see you're upset–
Robert Rand: Of course I'm upset. My son is in jail!
Detective Murphy: Why don't I go make a call and see what I can find out?
Robert Rand: Yes. Do that. Maybe they'll tell you what's going on.
Detective Murphy: I'll be right back.
Detective Armstrong: While we wait, why don't we talk about Ryan?
Robert Rand: I'm not talking to you about Ryan. You're the one trying to say he was involved in murder.
Detective Armstrong: Has he told you anything about what happened between him and Cameron and Caitlin?
Robert Rand: No, he hasn't told me anything. I told you they wouldn't let me see him.
Detective Armstrong: What about before today?
Robert Rand: What difference does it make? I'm only here because you won't let me see my son. I didn't come here to talk.
Detective Armstrong: OK. How did you know he was back from California? We've only been here a few hours.
Robert Rand: I had a lawyer here waiting for him. She told me when you got here.
Detective Armstrong: I see.
Robert Rand: She couldn't get in to see him either, by the way. What are you people trying to pull?
Detective Armstrong: We aren't doing anything to prevent Ryan from having visitors, I can assure you.
Robert Rand: We'll just see about that.
Detective Armstrong: Maybe it's just some mix-up at the jail.
Detective Murphy: Actually, no, it isn't.
Robert Rand: What do you mean?
Detective Murphy: Well, I talked to the people at the jail, and they tell me they couldn't let you in because Ryan didn't put your name on the visitation log.
Robert Rand: And what does that mean exactly?
Detective Murphy: They said he told them he doesn't want any visitors.
Robert Rand: I am not a visitor. I am his father. Are you saying he doesn't want to see me?
Detective Murphy: I didn't get the impression that it's you specifically, but yes.
Robert Rand: That doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't he want to see me?
Detective Murphy: I'm sorry. I don't know.
Robert Rand: Well, even if he won't see me, you can't stop him from seeing his lawyer.
Detective Murphy: We didn't stop him. He said he didn't want to see the lawyer either.
Robert Rand: Well, he wouldn't have put her name on the list because he didn't know she'd be there today, but she's his lawyer.
Detective Murphy: I understand. They told him, and he said he didn't want to see her.
Robert Rand: That's ridiculous. Why would he do something so stupid?
Detective Murphy: I really don't know, sir.
Robert Rand: But I'm his father. Don't they have to let me see him, no matter what he says?
Detective Murphy: Well, Ryan is an adult, so no. I'm sorry. I know that's not what you want to hear.
Robert Rand: What did you say to him to make him do this?
Detective Armstrong: We didn't say anything. He made this decision on his own.
Robert Rand: Why should I believe you?
Detective Armstrong: Because it's the truth.
Robert Rand: Well, no offense, but you're also the ones who think he was involved in a murder, so you'll understand if I don't trust your judgment.
Detective Armstrong: I understand why you'd think he wasn't involved.
Robert Rand: He wasn't! My son is a good man, a gentle man. He wouldn't kill anyone and certainly not Cameron.
Detective Armstrong; Why not Cameron in particular?
Robert Rand: No. I told you I wasn't going to talk to you about this, and I'm not. What do I have to do to get in to see Ryan?
Detective Murphy: You have to get him to put your name on the list.
Robert Rand: And how do I do that?
Detective Murphy: Maybe you could write him a letter?
Robert Rand: Write him a letter?
Detective Murphy: That's an option.
Robert Rand: You don't understand. His mother cries all the time now. How can I go home and tell her our son won't see me? What am I supposed to do now?
Detective Murphy: I don't know, sir. This is an upsetting time for a lot of people. Maybe Ryan will change his mind after he's had a little time to think about it.
Robert Rand: You think so?
Detective Murphy: Anything's possible.
Robert Rand: I guess that's true. Listen, I'm sorry for bursting in here like that. I'll get out of your hair now.
Detective Murphy: Let me walk you out.
Robert Rand: Those people at the jail, they're keeping an eye on Ryan, right? To make sure… nothing happens?
Detective Murphy: Yes, sir.
Interview ends: 3:07 p.m.