Natalie Martin 2nd follow-up interview
Friday, March 14, 2014 - 10:05 a.m.
Natalie Martin recently resigned as the head nurse at the Yoknapatawpha Acres nursing home where Jerry Shaw worked after Mr. Shaw's death. Detectives Armstrong and Murphy re-interviewed her at the Yoknapatawpha County Sheriff's Department. The interview was recorded with the witness's knowledge and consent.
- Detective T. Armstrong
- Detective S. Murphy
- Natalie Martin
Detective Armstrong: Thank you for coming in again. As before, state your name and address please.
Natalie Martin: Natalie Martin, 1182 Mimosa Drive, Oxford, Mississippi.
Detective Armstrong: How'd that interview go?
Natalie Martin: It went well. I got called back for a second interview, and I start working at the hospital on Monday. I just got the offer this morning.
Detective Murphy: Congratulations. We need to go over a few things with you.
Natalie Martin: I'll answer the best I can, but I have to warn you, I will not answer any questions about Richard Landrigan.
Detective Armstrong: Why not?
Natalie Martin: I have been advised by counsel not to.
Detective Armstrong: You hired an attorney?
Natalie Martin: There's no law against that, is there?
Detective Armstrong: No, there isn't.
Detective Murphy: You told us last time that you called Margery Adams when you quit Yoknapatawpha Acres.
Natalie Martin: Yes.
Detective Murphy: Did you call the families of any other patients?
Natalie Martin: No.
Detective Murphy: Why is that?
Natalie Martin: Because I ran out of time. After I quit, I only had a few minutes before they hustled me out of there. Margery's number was the only one I had a chance to get.
Detective Armstrong: Did you know that Margery took Rose to an independent doctor?
Natalie Martin: I did not, but I'm glad she did.
Detective Armstrong: According to his findings, Rose hadn't been cared for properly for quite some time. That would include while you were still employed there.
Natalie Martin: I couldn't be everywhere and do everything.
Detective Murphy: Please, you don't have to get loud with us. You seem to have a rather quick temper.
Natalie Martin: I apologize. It's just that I worked with a bunch of lazy, uncaring people. I could tell them what should be done — even show them a hundred times how to do it — but I couldn't make them do it.
Detective Armstrong: You worked at Yoknapatawpha Acres for a good while. Was it like that the whole time you were there?
Natalie Martin: Well, the standard of excellence was never as high as it was at the hospital, but things had gotten worse recently.
Detective Armstrong: Do you know why?
Natalie Martin: I don't think my lawyer would want me to answer that.
Detective Armstrong: Can you tell us how long this decline has been going on?
Natalie Martin: I can't pinpoint it for you, but it might be safe to assume it was over the last year or so. That's all I can say without my lawyer present.
Detective Murphy: Let's talk about something a little different then. Do you know Matt Hooper?
Natalie Martin: The oxygen delivery fellow? Sure.
Detective Murphy: Do you know if there was any sort of relationship between him and Jerry?
Natalie Martin: Well, they were thick as thieves there for a while, but not as much recently.
Detective Murphy: Do you know what happened?
Natalie Martin: No. I never had time for gossip and personal nonsense. I'm sure someone else at the Acres can tell you.
Detective Murphy: Was Matt friendly with anyone else at the Acres?
Natalie Martin: I saw him chatting with Lillie quite a few times, but I don't know if they're going out together or just flirting.
Detective Murphy: Anybody else?
Natalie Martin: It's possible, but I have no idea. I only saw him a few minutes a week, if that.
Detective Armstrong: You sure you won't change your mind and talk to us about Richard Landrigan?
Natalie Martin: I'm sorry. I really can't.
Detective Armstrong: OK, then. Thank you for coming in. I have a feeling some other people will be wanting to talk to you about him soon enough.
Interview ends - 10:24 a.m.