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Monday, January 6, 2014 - 2:00 p.m.

Ryan Rand is Cameron Maxwell's best friend. Detectives Armstrong and Murphy interviewed him at the Yoknapatawpha County Sheriff's Department. The interview was recorded with the witness's knowledge and consent.

Ryan Rand, Cameron Maxwell's friendParticipants:

  • Detective T. Armstrong
  • Detective S. Murphy
  • Ryan Rand

Detective Armstrong: Thanks for making time for us today. For the record, please state your name and address.

Ryan Rand: Ryan Rand. I live at 17 Virginia Street.

Detective Armstrong: Thank you. I'd like to start with the past few days. Have you seen Cameron Maxwell at all?

Ryan Rand: Not in the past few days, no. Since he's been home, we've only seen each other once – last week. We went to see Anchorman 2.

Detective Armstrong: And since then, you haven't seen him?

Ryan Rand: No. We've texted, talked on the phone a couple of times. Or I guess we talked a couple of times before we went out, and then once after on the night before he left. Or was supposed to leave. I still can't really believe it.

Detective Armstrong: So you talked to him the night of January 2nd?

Ryan Rand: Yeah.

Detective Armstrong: What did you talk about?

Ryan Rand: Not much. He had to go eat dinner. His parents, they always do a big farewell dinner for him and Caitlin whenever he's going off somewhere to train or for a competition or whatever. Except when they go to Memphis. That's almost every day. Anyway, we talked for maybe ten minutes. I called to say goodbye, and he talked about seeing me when he got back, and he talked about going to Nationals and how he hoped they did well. That was about it.

Detective Armstrong: Have you heard from him since then?

Ryan Rand: No. If I'd known that was the last– I wish I'd said more now, you know?

Detective Armstrong: Of course. Do you want to take a minute?

Ryan Rand: No. I'm OK.

Detective Murphy: It sounds like you two go back a long way. When did you meet?

Ryan Rand: It was back in first grade. We shared a table in Mrs. Lytton's class. We've pretty much been friends since then, especially before he skated a lot. After that, it got harder. I guess after seventh grade or so.

Detective Murphy: How so?

Ryan Rand: Well, you know. Someone who's such a dedicated athlete, he had to make sacrifices. He didn't get out much, didn't really have time for a lot of friends. But we stayed pretty close. I understood that I couldn't interfere with his dream because then what kind of friend is that? So I just wanted to help him and hang out with him whenever he had time. Maybe that sounds a little pathetic, but I just figured that's what I needed to do to be friends with him.

Detective Murphy: How did you help him?

Ryan Rand: Mostly just in school, keeping track of homework and stuff. It got pretty hard for him in high school when he was away a lot, hard to know even what day it was. So I kind of kept him on track.

Detective Murphy: That's it?

Ryan Rand: OK, sometimes I did the odd assignment or paper for him. Or I'd, like, find stuff online – like for term papers, you know, background materials, research – and I'd give it to him, and he'd write it up if he had time.

Detective Armstrong: So you did his homework for him? And that was helping him?

Ryan Rand: I don't really believe homework does that much as far as teaching anyone anything. It's just busywork, so I didn't mind. And anyways, I'm pretty fast at it. I guess you could say I'm the brains and he's the brawn, only he's got brains too.

Detective Murphy: What about recently? Have you been helping Cameron?

Ryan Rand: No. Not since graduation. You know, he's been just training all the time, not in college or anything. We really haven't seen each other that much. I guess I loaned him a little cash once or twice when he needed it, but that's about it.

Detective Murphy: And since graduation, have you seen Cameron on a regular basis?

Ryan Rand: Yeah. Well, I mean no, not really. He's pretty busy. He's just training all the time.

Detective Murphy: Does that upset you?

Ryan Rand: No. I understand it's just what he has to do. It's his life.

Detective Armstrong: Ryan, I know it's going to be hard to answer this, but is there any reason you can think of for Cameron and Caitlin to disappear?

Ryan Rand: You mean as far as kidnapping? No. Everybody I know really likes them. Even people who don't know them feel like they know them, you know? Everyone wants them to just go for it.

Detective Armstrong: What about running away?

Ryan Rand: I don't think so. Cameron and I used to talk about it sometimes but he– we never really wanted to. It was just talk.

Detective Armstrong: Did you ever try?

Ryan Rand: No. We never even came close. It was more like something we would talk about to cheer him up. Like when he was down about his training, we'd talk about just going away and doing something else. You know, like sometimes he liked to think he wanted to lead a normal life and just get a job and stuff. But we never did it.

Detective Armstrong: Is this something you two talked about a lot?

Ryan Rand: No, only two or three times, just when he was down about his training or something. Sometimes his coaches were hard on him, and a few times, it just kind of depressed him. But I don't think he would ever run away for real. Skating was what he was all about.

Detective Armstrong: What about Caitlin? Would she want to run away?

Ryan Rand: I don't know. I didn't know her that well, at least recently. I mean, I haven't spent time with her since high school. I knew her a lot when we were all in fourth, fifth grade. She's always been really sweet to me, and I know Cameron thought the world of her.

Detective Armstrong: He didn't talk about arguing with her?

Ryan Rand: No. I mean, sometimes they would fight about little things – choreography, stuff like that. But they stuck together real close.

Detective Armstrong: So can you think of any reason why they would disappear?

Ryan Rand: No. No clue.

Detective Murphy: If they did run away, can you think of anywhere they might go?

Ryan Rand: I don't know.

Detective Murphy: Is there anyone else you can think of we might want to talk to? Any other friends?

Ryan Rand: For Caitlin, I don't know. Cameron, I guess I'm pretty much it. When he was home, he liked to hang out with his folks pretty much.

Detective Armstrong: I have just one last question. Where were you the morning of January 3rd?

Ryan Rand: You mean, like when they disappeared? I was home. I guess I was probably studying, or else I might have been asleep. I tend to turn in around 3:00 a.m. at the latest, but I don't remember exactly when it was that night.

Interview ends: 2:31 p.m.

 

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  • I wonder what he was lending him money for.

  • Ryan seems to have spoken a couple of times in past tense, and wanted to clarify that last question about where he was, whereas Maggie just answered it. Maybe I am just reading too much into it.

  • I also think his alibi is not that conclusive; given his interview was only 3 days later ..

  • Ryan rand,

    quote from his interview:





    a glitch there the dinner was a big full breakfast dinner at the january 3thd not the january 2nd.

    Ryan , Ryan ...

    part of austin maxwell interview:



    Here as you can see cameron texted ryan about the Quote:He had to go eat dinner. His parents, they always do a big farewell dinner for him and Caitlin whenever he's going off somewhere to train or for a competition or whatever. the big farewell dinner was at the 3thd of january not 2nd! , what is he hiding?

  • Just quoting from memory from what I remember. But Robin did prepare a big farewell dinner the evening before, then the next morning she gets up early to have a big breakfast for the family before Cameron and Caitlin are taken to catch their bus. If you ask me I am very suspicious of Ryan Rand and his friend's, because there had to have been others involved in the murder. And I don't believe the luggage was disposed of, the same morning as the bodies were buried. And the luggage could have been kept at Ryan's house until the next evening when Alan Philbert was travelling behind a dark Honda hatchback around about 10.21pm on Molly Bar road carrying a big load covered with blankets. Which was acting erratic and was reported to the police. I believe they were going to dump the luggage. Kristi Dawes saw a similar hatchback on McLarty road when she did board the bus. This is just my conclusion.

    from Home Hill QLD 4806, Australia
  • cfp - you seem to have caught this before the rest of us did!;)

  • True

  • In order for Ryan to be Cameron's friend, he did not interfere with Cameron's skating, did the research and homework while in high school, and loaned him money every now and then. Maggie said that their parents gave her anything she wanted, is this the case with Cameron? If it is, why did he get the money from his parents instead of borrowing it from Ryan? He also can not make up his mind of what he was doing at 3:00am on Jan. 3rd.

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