A man told 911 he and his stepdaughter had found his wife's body in their home.

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some interesting leads/thoughts;

1) clearly no struggle / forced entry discovered yet; perhaps the victim knew the killer

2) if she was suffocated by the plastic bag held onto her by someone else, you would expect more damage to the immediate...

some interesting leads/thoughts;

1) clearly no struggle / forced entry discovered yet; perhaps the victim knew the killer

2) if she was suffocated by the plastic bag held onto her by someone else, you would expect more damage to the immediate surroundings

3) COD unclear yet; might provide further leads

4) examination of the 'brown liquid' in the drinking glass and the decanter needed to establish what that is, whether it was lethal, whether it was non-lethal but could lead to a drowsy state or induce deep sleep, whether it was in the victim's body and how did it come to be in the victim's body. possible link between drink contents and vic's lifestyle

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4) examination of the 'brown liquid' in the drinking glass and the decanter needed to establish what that is, whether it was lethal, whether it was non-lethal but could lead to a drowsy state or induce deep sleep, whether it was in the victim's...

4) examination of the 'brown liquid' in the drinking glass and the decanter needed to establish what that is, whether it was lethal, whether it was non-lethal but could lead to a drowsy state or induce deep sleep, whether it was in the victim's body and how did it come to be in the victim's body. possible link between drink contents and vic's lifestyle

5) interesting to see that the note is typewritten, not handwritten. not many suicidal people i know of type their suicide note, print it out, have a lethal drink, fold the letter nicely, use it as a coaster for their lethal drink then go to sleep peacefully.

6) the contents of the note; the supposed accident to Danielle Lemmons would have to be checked out. recent behavior of vic- from friends and family- might suggest her state of mind recently vis-à-vis the death of Lemmons. 2nd last sentence stands out to me as the vic not having typed the note.

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7) from which printer the note was printed would be telling (home, office, elsewhere); accompanying computers would have to be checked out as well. If she was really typing her negative thoughts, one would expect more of such entries in the PC...

7) from which printer the note was printed would be telling (home, office, elsewhere); accompanying computers would have to be checked out as well. If she was really typing her negative thoughts, one would expect more of such entries in the PC and probably someone she was pouring out to.

8) not many people her size run triathlons, not many suicidal people run triathlons; but I might be wrong.

9) all has to be interviewed w/regards to vic’s personal life, professional life and relationship with others in her inner and professional circle. I think it’s interesting that the vic fell in love with Michael, but married George instead. At this point I think we can’t rule out the stress from the malpractice suit on not just her personal life, but her business and business partners as well.

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Suicidal individuals can often carry off an air of normality. The rest of what you typed i agree with entirely

 

From the report, it definitely doesn't seem like a suicide and assuming it isn't, this is interesting.

No disturbances around the surroundings of the body and no signs of struggle. The victim either was helpless/unconscious or was taken by...

From the report, it definitely doesn't seem like a suicide and assuming it isn't, this is interesting.

No disturbances around the surroundings of the body and no signs of struggle. The victim either was helpless/unconscious or was taken by surprise.

No sign of forced entry suggests the victim knew the killer.

The letter was typed which is odd and if asphyxiation was the COD you would see pigmentation on the skin from deprivation of oxygen. The arms were unbent and to the side of the body parallel. This can't be the death position if she asphyxiated herself because she would have had to hold the bag tight and when she died, her arms wouldn't just naturally fall unbent to the side.

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The unknown liquids in both cups should be examined.

Second drink on the table across from the body suggests there was another person she was drinking with. The second cup should be dusted for fingerprint and checked for DNA.

I'm really excited...

The unknown liquids in both cups should be examined.

Second drink on the table across from the body suggests there was another person she was drinking with. The second cup should be dusted for fingerprint and checked for DNA.

I'm really excited to see more evidence to come up!

I really want to know who Danielle Lemmons is.

From what i can gather right now, my suspect is George because I'm sure him and his daughter would have noticed a stranger having drinks in the master bedroom. No forced entry. George is looking bad in my opinion

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There's only one drinking glass in the room though. A decanter is merely a decorative "bottle" to store alcohol in - in this case, maybe whiskey or some other brown type of alcohol.

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it wierd couse if u cover your head with plastic u will struggle to breathe..but it in this woman situation is she not strugle..pillow stay not touch..n yes MROKL i agreed..but the brown liquid it must be that water make her asleep or something...

it wierd couse if u cover your head with plastic u will struggle to breathe..but it in this woman situation is she not strugle..pillow stay not touch..n yes MROKL i agreed..but the brown liquid it must be that water make her asleep or something like poision or chemical..in his pic some tell me that her face n mouth is open like she try to breathe..probely that liquid make her numb for moment and someone was cover that plastic in her head n make his die slowly..this case will be interesting after this..i very curious to wait what next..^^b

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The contents of the glass were not clarified so it is entirely plausible that she ingested some form of substance to render herself unconscious .What i would need to confirm this would be autopsy results and a toxicological examination of the...

The contents of the glass were not clarified so it is entirely plausible that she ingested some form of substance to render herself unconscious .What i would need to confirm this would be autopsy results and a toxicological examination of the substance in the glass to test for opiates.During asphyxiation by another person , the victim would most certainly try to put up some type of fight or struggle. No wounds or bruises were visible on the victims body which suggests either she was very calm and expected it or that she did it herself. Her mouth being open could be that the drug did not render her fully unconscious as planned. The light being on in the room suggested that she first entered the room between the hours of 7pm and 8pm . The TV being on suggests that she wished to watch something before passing on. Hand positioning suggests that she was fairly relaxed when she passed.Sounds like it is possibly a suicide.

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I think this is a case of staged suicide..
Consider the note - the content of it, to me, sounds like a confession someone else wants to hear from her... Her husband knows whats going on in their lives, why write a note to him, naming both the...

I think this is a case of staged suicide..
Consider the note - the content of it, to me, sounds like a confession someone else wants to hear from her... Her husband knows whats going on in their lives, why write a note to him, naming both the incident and the full name of the patient? Just doesn't seem right.
Plus we can't even be sure it's HER writing, since it type-written, which also smells like a fake...

Her pose on the bed is also bothering me. Even if drugged and relaxed, her face seemed to be the only part of her body unaffected? That's just not logical.

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The TV aswell.. if you're going to commit suicide - your whole mind would be in a depth one can't even imagine. If she were to kill herself and wrote a note, is the next logical step seriously to turn on the tv? What's the purpose of that? Is it...

The TV aswell.. if you're going to commit suicide - your whole mind would be in a depth one can't even imagine. If she were to kill herself and wrote a note, is the next logical step seriously to turn on the tv? What's the purpose of that? Is it too quiet in the house? If the act she is about to do, disdurbs her so much she can't stand the quietness of the room she'll die in, then would she even be determined enough to follow through?

Yes suicidal people might at times SEEM like nothing is going on, but they were trying for a baby and had just paid for a holiday together... if she was depressed to the point of hopelessness, she wouldn't even be able to go to work in the mornings.

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I think suicide is out of the question (at the moment). If this is the case this murder was planned and the murderer came well prepared to make this look like a suicide. S/he wouldnt risk typing and printing the suicide note on the family...

I think suicide is out of the question (at the moment). If this is the case this murder was planned and the murderer came well prepared to make this look like a suicide. S/he wouldnt risk typing and printing the suicide note on the family pc/printer. S/He would have to drug/poison Veronica. This would have happened on the 2nd floor, seing as V. is a big woman. If George and Haley have got a solid alibi it had to be someone who knew where Veronica would be alone long enough to pull this thing off. And it has to be someone who she trusted and let in, or had an appointment with (unlikely) or someone with access (keys) to the home.

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why would she take off her shoes and socks before committing suicide? She hadn't been home long, right?

 

She left the bar shortly after 9pm and was found dead around 09:58pm by husband and daughter. I think if she had really wanted to kill herself with the proper exit method, she would have worn something a lot more comfortable, let alone take her...

She left the bar shortly after 9pm and was found dead around 09:58pm by husband and daughter. I think if she had really wanted to kill herself with the proper exit method, she would have worn something a lot more comfortable, let alone take her shoes off.

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