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Interview: Elizabeth "Lizzie" Barton, attended Marshall family reunion

Saturday September 12, 2009 - 8:20 AM

The witness, Lizzie Barton, is a family friend of the Marshall family and attended the reunion at Wall Doxey State Park. The interview was conducted at the Yoknapatawpha Sheriff's Department and recorded on a portable tape recorder with the witness's knowledge and consent.

Detective Samantha Murphy
Detective Ted Armstrong
Elizabeth Barton

Elizabeth Barton: Good morning, detectives.

Detective Murphy:  Would you state your name and address for the record before we begin, please?

Elizabeth Barton: Of course. My name is Lizzie Barton and I live at 576 Webb Street. Well, it's actually Elizabeth, but everyone calls me Lizzie.

Detective Murphy: Thank you. Why do you suppose we asked you to come in, Mrs. Barton?

Elizabeth Barton: Please call me Lizzie. I think you want to know if I know Oscar Knight. Isn't that right? I read in the paper that you were looking for him.

Detective Murphy: Yes, that is why we wanted to talk to you. Do you know Mr. Knight, Lizzie?

Elizabeth Barton: Yes, I knew Ozzie years ago when we went to school together. I hadn't seen him since then.

Detective Murphy: But you've seen him recently haven't you?

Elizabeth Barton: Oh yes.  I saw him at the Marshall family reunion. It was a complete surprise and I didn't recognize him at first. Steve pointed him out to me. The Marshall family is a large family and their reunions draw a lot of friends and family. This year the reunion was held at the Wall Doxey State Park. But this was the first time I remember Ozzie being there.

Detective Armstrong: Who is Steve?  Is that an acquaintance of yours?

Elizabeth Barton: Oh, yes. That would be Steve Marshall. I've known Steve since school days, too. We were in the same classes. I've been to a lot of basketball games and parties with Steve. My family and his have been friends for many years.

Detective Armstrong: Did you have an altercation of some sort with Oscar Knight?

Elizabeth Barton: How in the world did you know about that?  It wasn't a big deal, Detective.  Ozzie was just being obnoxious is all. I think he had been drinking, and I just wasn't having any of it.

Detective Armstrong: What did he say that upset you?

Elizabeth Barton: He said I was really looking my age. That isn't something that most people would say to a man, let alone a woman. It was rude. I told him he should leave the reunion before he embarrassed the family.

Detective Murphy: Was he intoxicated?

Elizabeth Barton: No, he wasn't intoxicated, but he was feeling it a little. The problem began when he wanted me to have a drink with him. I told him no, and he said I was still a prissy little thing. I told him he was just as overbearing as I remembered him and walked away.

Detective Armstrong: Did he try to stop you?

Elizabeth Barton: No, he didn't do that. I think he realized that that would be a big mistake. He would have been tarred and feathered and ran out of town on a rail if he'd done something like that. No, he just kept following me around and I wasn't interested in talking to him anymore. I told him to do everyone a favor and leave.

Detective Murphy: So, you knew Mr. Knight in school. Were you just classmates or were you friends? Did Steve know him very well?

Elizabeth Barton: Yes, we were classmates and friends, sort of. He seemed like an interesting guy. He was very smart and he always talked about how he was going to be rich someday. I thought he was a pretty nice guy, too. Then when I saw his true colors, I decided that he just wasn't worth my time and just told him I didn't want to be around him anymore.

Detective Armstrong: And how did he take that?

Elizabeth Barton: I don't think it bothered him at all. I believe he left town shortly after that, and I haven't seen him since. Good riddance is what I said.

Detective Armstrong: How did he seem to be when you talked to him at the reunion?

Elizabeth Barton: He seemed fine, at first. We just talked about old times, and then I smelled alcohol on his breath and started moving away from him. He didn't like it and started following me.

Detective Armstrong: What time did you go to the reunion?

Elizabeth Barton: Oh, it wasn't too early, but it was before noon. I wanted to make sure I got there before everyone sat down for lunch and I wanted to get my food on the table, too.

Detective Armstrong: Do you know what time Mr. Knight got there?

Elizabeth Barton: No, I have no idea.

Detective Armstrong: What time did you leave the reunion?

Elizabeth Barton: I left earlier than I normally would have, but I didn't want to run into Ozzie again. I always loved going to the Marshall reunion because I knew so many of the people that would be there. My day was ruined. So I left around 3 in the afternoon.  Pauline told me later that she had a run-in with Ozzie, too.

Detective Murphy: What is Pauline’s last name and did she tell you what happened?

Elizabeth Barton: Pauline Jones. That's one reason why I hated to leave the reunion so early. Pauline and I have been friends for over 20 years. She said Ozzie said something about me and she slapped him. I wasn't surprised that she would slap him. Pauline is a very close and loyal friend.

Detective Armstrong: Did Pauline tell you what he said?

Elizabeth Barton: No, she said she wouldn't repeat it. She said he was also talking about meeting someone later that evening, but he seemed very secretive about it.

Detective Armstrong: Did he mention to you that he was meeting someone later?

Elizabeth Barton: No, not a word. I didn't talk to him enough for him to share any of his plans for the evening with me.

Detective Murphy: Is there anything else that you can remember that might be important to our investigation?

Elizabeth Barton: No, since I left the reunion early, I didn't hear much. All I hope is that he won't come back to the reunion next year. I bet I'm not alone in that, either.

Detective Murphy: All right. I think we're done for now. If you remember anything else, please give us a call, Lizzie.

Elizabeth Barton: I will. Good day.

Interview ended: 9:15 AM