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Armstrong, It would appear to me that there must be more that one person involved in the burial. Doing some quick calculations, 1 sheet of 3/4" plywood weighs about 67# and with the box being (from pix) 6x3x4, double lined w/ side vent and top that it would weigh about 400 lb. Couple that with a body, about 515 lbs. Quite a bit of weight for a small framed, under 5'8" to handle alone. Just a consideration from a little guy, under 5'8"" & 132 lbs. Lloyd516
Response: We duplicated the box using 2 sheets of plywood and hardware making the box weigh about 150 Lbs. With the victims weight added, that comes to about 260 lbs. Still very difficult for a single person. Note, there were indications the box was dropped
I think her father had something to do with her murder
Is it just a coincidence that the typeface used in the letters and the typeface used in Anderson's web site are one and the same--Courier?
Response: Its intentional.
is there any chance that the stalker and the murderer were different people? I get the feeling that the photos were not taken by the same person, the twelve recoverd in the camera are badly taken, yet the poloroid is crisply focused. perhaps this abductor is a keen photograther!
Response: They are two different people. Matthew Owens confessed to the stalking. The killer is still at large.
Woolworth is your man pick him up for questioning at the least. Lets move on this...pronto!
Response: Check back this Friday.
Has Josh Niblett been questioned at all? if he has, where is his statement please?
Response: He was questioned informally, as were others present st the Ego Shovel party described by Teri Leyton..
I would still like to know if W.Haag Oxford's produce vendor and Pamela Haag, the one who was thought to have been held in the Oregon "box", were related or connected in anyway please
Response: No connection.
I can't figure out exactly who put Purity in the box, but is it possible that the wounds on her body were self inflicted. The coroner's report said the killer was left handed because the wounds were on the right side of her body, just as they would be if she had made them with her right hand and arm which was broken from the blows. Also, so many of the wounds were near her abdomen, perhaps indicative of her remorse at having had an abortion. Just some thoughts. Personally, I think it was a ransom attempt, devised by Purity, with the help of ?, and it went awry. She then proceded to go nuts inside the box.
Thanks for a great way to while away a few hours.
Response: Appreciated. Det. Anderson shares a similar theory.
I have a few questions... One I get the feeling that the baby Purity was pregnant with was her fathers. I would explain how he and her mom found out about the abortion. Also, some of the threating phone calls to Valeri originated in that area. Who ever was involved with that probably has something to do with this... The gentleman who claims to walk his dog in the same area every day yet never found her has got to be involved. His dog would have heard something if Dylan did. Dogs have better hearing than Humans.
Response: All parties agree Purity was pregnant with Jake Rohleen's child. As for the dog: that was their first time in that particular area-because the dog broke free.
No questions really. Just wondered what you thought of the information in my "somewhat" theory. Wish I had had more time to complete.
Response: Where and when was it posted? I can't find it.
I think Dectective anderson is guilty he was on the case and was not forward with the fact he knew the victim . He just needs to come clean with his little crime
OK, I know who did it.
Yoknapatawpha County did it.
Yes, EVERYBODY did it. :)
When are you going to post the new winner in the theory contest? It's 9/2 and still no new one......Thanks for the great sight
Response: You are referring to the T-shirt we give away on America Online. We'll catch up on the winners soon. Right after I get done answering these comments.
WHY HAVEN'T YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF COMMENTS?
Response: We answer most. Sometimes answering the same question again and again. To cut down on the extraneous posting, we are considering a membership system.
Hello. I have a comment. One of the pieces of evidence was a piece of paper with Edgar Allen Poe poems on it. At the end of the poem was written " now all I'm left with is heartbreak." Could it possibly be a former boyfriend?
Response: Yes, likely.
Hi Detective. Everyday I go through the case and it just seems endless. I would just like to know how old Dylan is. I know is is between 8 and 13 but what age exactly?
Response: 9 years old.
I think Aaron Azerian did it. alibis are weak for him being able to do it. he has motive with the money. fits the description. runs out side bar easy access to certain materiels. was able to come during the day stayed out at night. he is the man you need to catch.
It bothers me that Purity's parents aren't taken more into this. I understand that her parents speak strongly out againt killing and torture..especially of their own daughter, but look what they put Valerie through. I think this needs to be reviewed more.
Response: The Knights had neither motive nor opportunity. See the alibis breakdown.
I am only guilty
Of loving my Ariadne;
Sweet soul of Purity.
Thanks for organizing the major points of the investigation (suspect line-up, alibis, etc.)....I was on vaction for the past two weeks and was glad to see all the information that you have summarized for us.....Great site!!!!
Box made by wood maker (fact)
with history of cabnets making.
was put in box by male (fact)
? was any food found in box
burns are a test to her not telling anyone of them (did you
look at the age of burns ref to time in box ) not done by her!
tree ? wood on ground or moved
walks dog every morning ? did not see truck in woods so near home- (way in & out with truck)(or build box at home woodworking hobby?) dog would bark at any sound crying helling.
went to see her daily (by way box was made)
find box building,look for way in or out of area,look for smoker,find person with poem history.
last, male 21-35, 6'0'', w/truck, woodworking back ground,no one at this person home (box),makes $
good luck !
Response: Cracker boxs and candy wrappers found in box. No one saw a truck at the scene. Appreciate the profile.
could it have been a fellow student or maybe someone from a local bar or college hangout?
what a gruesome case.....could a family member have been trying to silence the girls for some secret?
In reading the autopsy report I came to the conclution this crime was probably comitted by a female friend or relative. most likely with the help of a male. Other possible suspects a guy with a crush whom she rejected. Someone who really liked her and wanted her to want him back. I've come to this conclution because there was no sexual assault, and the body showed very little damage. whatever torture she endured was minimal there was no real internsion to hurt her badly. In sending the notes to the police the criminal displays a desire to be recognized, to be respected,he wants to be taken seriously. More that likely this were the same things he wanted from the victim. White male bet. ages of 18-27 loner, owns car, living by himself, works as a carpenter or construction.
In reading the autopsy report I came to the conclution this crime was probably comitted by a female friend or relative. most likely with the help of a male. Other possible suspects a guy with a crush whom she rejected. Someone who really liked her and wanted her to want him back. I've come to this conclution because there was no sexual assault, and the body showed very little damage. whatever torture she endured was minimal there was no real internsion to hurt her badly. In sending the notes to the police the criminal displays a desire to be recognized, to be respected,he wants to be taken seriously. More that likely this were the same things he wanted from the victim. White male bet. ages of 18-25, loner, owns car, living by himself, works as a carpenter or construction.
i think that aaron azeriah is involved with purity in a scheme to get the 10k from her parents that he loaned to her, that she never repaid. why would her parents give her 10k for tuition after she blew them off?
this scheme went wrong somewhere, and the letter to "dave" is a red herring to implicate him.
does Ben Archer walk his dog in the same places every day?
i need to more background info on suspects such as previous history for instance kevin stark what does he do for a living..??? and what about skills the killer had to put the nice neat coffin together where did he get the tools or hardware it the investigators are doin a so-so job
i bielive that the ex-boyfriend killed her. he had family in the area, so he had an alabi. he also was gone and had the ability to send the letter from another town because he attended a school far from home and could send the letter on the way to or from the school. the motive would be that he was happy with the relationship and they broke up, therefore he went or a mad craze and was obscessed with her and was determind to teach her a lesson.
This seems to me as a cult related sacrifice. Purity never told the boy to get the police or seem to be upset. I think she was involved in this cult and they convinced her that she needed to be some sort of sacrifice. The police need to check out this cult the professor mentioned that was trying to recuit her. Someone knows something and will sooner or later trip up.
WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DAVID WOOLWORTH AND BRIANNA? MY THEORY? PURITY AND DAVID WOOLWORTH KILLED HER SISTER AND THE BROTHERS; MOSTLY AT DAVID'S INSISTENCE. HE HAD GREAT CONTROL OVER PURITY BECAUSE OF HIS INTELLIGENCE AND THE APPEAL OF HIS 'ALIEN' SPOUTING AND END OF THE WORLD GIBBERISH. PURITY WAS ATTRACTED AS AN ACT OF REBELLION TO HER FUNDAMENTALIST UPBRINGING. DAVID NEEDED MONEY AND CONCOCTED A SCHEME TO BURY PURITY AND SEND THE RANSOM NOTE. WHEN DAVID REALIZED PURITY WAS TALKING TO DYLAN AND MIGHT HAVE IDENTIFIED DAVID AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR IN THE "KIDNAPPING" HE DUG HER UP OR BURIED HER DEEPER AND KILLED HER. RESPONSE?
Has Ed Pierce and Detective Anderson been included in the lineups that Dylan Tull looked at? If these 2 men are the leading suspects, wouldn't it make sense to have a line up with them in it for the kid to view? Dylan did supposedly see the murderer, so he would be able to rule out either or both men in a lineup.
I don't think this was the work of one person alone, it involves at least 2 or more people and I think its a case of Purity in cahoots with some other people to get her inheritance through a ransom.
Very well done, I thought it was real until I went into reality check! Good Job!
I think this website is great and I have been an avid fan for about 1 1/2 years now. Unfortunantly upon sending my comments in the past, I have never gotten a response. My question for the third time is in reguards to Lisa Wood. She was built up in the Vilson case to being a possible suspect and then dissapeared with mental problems, and with no importance to the case except as a liar. Upon looking at her pictures and the picture of the people in Purity's safety deposit box, I noticed a strong resemblance with Wood and Girl in the middle of the picture. Wood appeared to be desperate to be part of the Vilson homicide, as a sort of status symbol. Is it possible she wove her way into Purity's life for the same reason, only now with a more active role in the death of the victim. Sort of a tragedy groupie. The resemblance is just too strong to ignore. Check this out! Thanks
Response: I was just getting ready to shut down for the evening, when I saw this comment. I'm awfully sorry that your thought wasn't responded to earlier.
There is a very strong resemblence. We contacted Wood to make ceratin that it was not her. She denies it. The woman who had us blur her face identified the middle person as, Estafani. Her name and phone number appear on the ATM slip found in Knight's safety deposit box.
Background Note: Lisa Wood was a witness in the Valerie Vilson murder. Her e-mail address is LisamWood@aol.com
i have a question detective, ben archer said that maybe the scratches in the trees and maybe they were from antlers of a deer, then he said that there were no deer in that part of the woods. So it is either one or the other. He is saying two different things at the same time. Please let me know about this.
I want to know if there is a connection between Wendall Haag and Pamela Haag.
Has Wendall been interviewed?
Regarding the post directly below: The killer (not the boy) supposedly put the note in the library book. Popular thought is that the killer saw PK give the note to Dylan, or that the killer just saw Dylan with the note, and intercepted it.
Unless I missed it, if the note was given to a 9 year old child, how did it get into a book, let alone a college book?
What type of Coroner/Medical Examiner system do you have? Post-mortem insect activity resembles cigarette burns. These injuries are too "neat" to have been inflicted in the box. Linear scratch-type abrasions located anteriorly do not resemble defense wounds or of the inflicted type.
Purity needed money and redemption. She was in cahoots with the "night owl", her "killer", at least initially. She and the "night owl" were trying to get the ransom from her parents (her $100,000 share of inheritance) through this "sick joke". Purity agreed to be buried alive. She never thought it would go so far; she never realized the fanaticism of the "night owl".
The "night owl" works at Mississippi Regional Center. He is probably a night watchman, this explains his skin color. He is also a member of Ego Shovel. He knows Rohleen's girlfiriend, Caitlin Davies (an Ego Shovel member), who also believes that Purity should "find salvation" for her sin, through punishment, as Jake has told her the whole story. Jake does not know of Caitlin's involvement in Ego Shovel.
The "night owl" was NOT in the line-up, which explains why Dylan did not ID anyone in the line-up. Check out other Oxford, MS members of Ego Shovel and the night crew at Miss. Regional Ctr. There should be a match- the "night owl" and Purity's "killer".
Purity's death was not a true homicide. It was a ransom plan that went awry due to the extreme fanaticism of the "night owl". For him it was an exciting game that got out-of-hand, as well.
HI DETECTIVE ARMSTRONG, I WAS WONDERING WHEN THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS WILL BE ADDRESSED? WHY IS THERE A DELAY? IF THIS PROBLEM ISNT FIXED I AM GOING TO HAVE TO ASK TO SPEAK TO YOUR SUPERVISOR--- NAH JUST JOKING! LOVE THE SITE!
Response: Thanks for the gentle tug of the sleeve. As the site gets more successful, sometimes these important items are delayed.
How did the note get in a book in the library?
What was recorded on the boy's tape machine?
How did the victim know "Dave" ?
Was it the victims hand writing on the note?
Response: 1-It was found in a stolen library book that had been returned.
2-The tape machine had a recording from the playground and then the episode presented here.
3-Anderson explains his relationship on his website.
4-The writing on the note was Purity Knight's.
Dosen;t David Anderson have his own web page? And how can I find it? Thank You...
Response: Here is Anderson's website.
How can I locate criminal records or other background information on suspects (namely Ed, Anderson, and Josh Niblett)? Also, How can I look at the files on the computer Purity, Lee and Ed used?
I'd also like to know more about the girl killed in Oregon 10 years ago.
Response: The persons above have no record. As for the computer files. We are making those available this week, along with information on the Oregon box abductions.
Were can I find more details on Ed Pierce? Also, have Tull try to ID Pierce in a line-up..........
Please contact me back. SERPICO555@aol.com
Response: Pierce's bio is here Dylan Tull, the 9 yr old, could not identify Pierce.
Tull seems to have seen the suspect face to face. If Detective Anderson is suspected, put Anderson in a line-up and have Tull try to ID him.........?
Please respond back at SERPICO555@aol.com.
PS. I'm a Criminology Major at a local college in my area. This game is damn close to reality....Great Job
Response: Dylan Tull could not identify anyone from the investigation.
Why is Det. Anderson's first name "David" or "Dave" in Purity's date book, but is "Daniel" on the search warrent? Is Det. Anderson trying to hide something? Or are there two Det. Andersons?
Response: That is Anderson's older brother, key investigator on the Valerie Vilson case.
Where is the note from Purity asking for help?
Response: The note is here.
Is Anderson a bad cop or better yet is he capable of murder,please just the facts sir as you see them.ill be at jdanger aol.com
Response: I spend 12 hours a day with him and know that he has neither the inclination, time, or energy for this horrible crime. My focus is on the loner on the suspect line-up.
Just some observations:
People new to the site should really take the time to read the cases and look at the questions that are being asked.
A lot of the answers about both cases are in the case files.
People wondering if this is real should go to Reality Check.
Thanks again for a wonderful site. The investigation's really moving along...can't wait for the arrest...
Response: I suggest that the search engine is an excellent way to answer your own questions. try our high powered beta-search engine here. Or the regular one here.
Could Purity be giving a clue that David Woolworth had something to do with her kidnapping, when she speaks of Mort the Owl being very, very smart. David Woolworth is a genius, tortured perhaps, and his middle name is "Sage".
Response: Perhaps, very interesting connection.
THERES A THEORY:
MAYBE DET.ANDERSON, AND ED PIERCE ARE APART OF EGO SHOVEL AND PURITY WANTED IN THEIR GROUP. THEY SAID OK BUT BEFORE YOU GET IN YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. YOU HAVE TO BE BURRIED FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT YOU ARE STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE THAT THEN YOU CAN JOIN. SO MAYBE ED AND OR DET. ANDERSON BURRY HER AND THINGS GO VERY WRONG-- SHE DECIDES THAT SHE DOENST WANT TO "FINISH" AND ASKS DYLAN TO HELP HER TELLING HIM TO TAKE A NOTE TO DET.ANDERSON. SOME ONE IN THE GROUP GOT THE NOTE FROM DYLAN AND THEY ARE NOT AT ALL PLEASED THAT SHE WANTS OUT. IF SHE BACKS OUT THEY WILL BE EXPOSED-- ESPECIALLY DET. ANDERSON. THEY KILL HER. THEY HAVE TO THINK FAST-- WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? SINCE DET. ANDERSON IS A DET. HE COMES UP WITH THE PLAN TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SHE WAS TAKEN. THEY KNOW THAT PURITY'S JOINING THE GROUP WAS A SECERT AND THEY KNEW THAT SHE DIDNT TELL A SOUL. THEN THEY START WITH THE MAP AND PICTURES ( WHICH WERE TAKEN OF HER BEFORE HER DEATH) ( MAYBE THIS PICTURE TAKING IS APART OF THIS WEIRD PROCESS) CALLING THE POLICE TO FIND HER. THIS IS A POSSIBLE THEORY. THANKS M
Response: Very interesting. Thank you.
P.S.: Try turning off all caps! Its hard to read that way.
What is the correlation to the Oregon incident and what facet did Anderson have in it and what was his location at this time?
Isn't it ironic that he was in Oregon at this time, as well as Purity, and then to wind up in the same town again, something fishy here.
Response: The Oregon incident, mentioned in a newspaper, was within 100 miles of Anderson's vicinity. These incidents happened 9 years before Knight attended Reed College in Oregon. More details on the Oregon incident this week.
Why was Valerie given up for adoption?
What is the whereabouts of Aaron Azeriah?
The same for Vaskin Kissoyan?
What ever happened to Jake Rohleen after the Rape?
Response: Valerie Vilson was given up because the pregnancy was out of wedlock. Azeriah runs the 8 Ball Lounge here in Oxford. Kissoyan, from the Vilson case, is back in his native Armenia. Rohleen has been attending the University of Arkansas.
Is this a true crime story?
Did Detective Anderson ever take any college English classes or is he a fan of Edgar A.Poe? Check the English Department at the College and find out if the students had done anything by Poe lately. I would take a better and closer look into Anderson's background. If you have to call in the FBI since they have a folder on almost everyone in the US.
Is Matthew Owens Related To The Owens' Listed In Purity's Father's Will?
Who is Josh Niblett? Was he interviewed and what is his background? It is obvious that he had a relationship with the victim and it wasn't as an aquaintance...
There must be a connection with Ego Shovel. Ed, Purity, Josh, David W, and Teri are all on the mailing list. I believe the killer to be among the above group of people.
HOW LONG WAS the body in the box?
It was mentioned that Det. Andersen in Oregon 10 yrs. ago where similar murder occurred. Was whereabouts of the other suspect checked out? What would possible motive be? Fanaticism?
It is amazing that the child's mother "forgot"about the note, and that the child himself didn't raise a ruckus about a buried girl. I am amazed everytime I read the info.
I have been following this for a while. I was glad to actually find out it is fake. I thought that if it *was* real, you were trivializing the deaths. =) you did a good job, it definately *feels* real. now, for the question...
1) how could she have written the note and then given it back to Dylan? there were bars on the side of her head and that was the only access, which was 4 feet down. too far for a child to reach. so I agree, perhaps Dylan wrote it.
2) in the pictures Dylan drew (finally seen them), one of them has a mouth coming out of the ground with sharp fangs. what is this representing? there is also a skeleton holding something in the edges of the picture...could he have known the killer was there?
I don't understand how her body was found by someone just taking a walk. It seemed to me that she was pretty well hidden.
For the killer to have spent time digging this hole for the box to be placed in, tells me the killer was very familiar with the area. And to make such a box? Had to be done in a garage or house! I feel the killer was a student. Anyone checked out a local lumber yard to see if the materials were bought there ? Great Web site !
Does Purity have any connections with a childrens group, or any classes to do with children? Is it at all possible that the boy seen found purity and fed her etc?
Is there any love lost between Ms. Perez and the deceased?
Hi Det. I am still LOOKING SHARP.
From you know who.
Thanks for the speedy response to my letters also.
Det, are you there now?
I previously posteD the following which has since been
The close up photo of the girl is obviously fake. There
are muscles in her face which appear very much alive.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE HAS BEEN NO MURDERS AND THIS WEBSITE IS
A VERY GOOD FANTASY. OR PERHAPS THE WEBMASTER IS PLANNING
Why doesn't someone search this anderson characters house.
You may find any typewriter that may have the same typeface
as the notes sent. Look for the ducktape used to seal the ransom
envelopes. Cosider the possibility that the notes were typed at
the Sherrifs Dept. Maybe you have already considered doing this.
Has detective anderson ever been to europe?
I definately think both sisters murders are related.
I believe that the motive has to do with the computor disk
that was stored in val's hard-drive, by greg..then tampered
with illegally, and then "TED" fixed the computor with
passwords..etc. I believe the information was sent to
purity's. Everyone seems to be connected in someway..
The "GOTH" is the main link here..could this person possibly
be the private inverstigator who Tom had hired, who turned
state's evidence and entered the witness protection program?
Think about Archer.. I mean, IF he walks there everyday, who is to say he is not stopping to take care of Purity. When he saw the boy he could have become concerned because no one was out there in the mornings before, and then HE had to telephone the police... just a thought..
also.. what is Matt Owens crime? What did he do that is called criminal mischief???
Who was Valerie's boyfreind ? Occupation ?
Det. Armstrong, I would like to know where you fit in the suspect list. A-J? What is you alibi for this time?
Okay, more about those darn bullfights--though I don't know that they're very relevant.
Someone proficient in Spanish (which I am not) should take a look at this site: http://www.estuinfo.es/torosensevilla/
If I'm interpreting the schedule of 1996 Seville bullfights correctly, Purity's list is way off. Only 8/29 is a correct bullfight date; no bullfighting took place on the other dates.
So what's this list really about, if not bullfighting? (Keeping in mind that Purity tells Caddy in her letter that finds bullfighting hideous.)
Detective--if you clear the trees, you can see the forest.
What paper did Ed Pierce write for his class instead of the one on Stoker & Synge?
Have you considered the possible connection between Pierce's interest in Stoker & the Goth costume?
When PK was in Spain, she used an ATM on 30/9--September 30th. But the reverse lists dates for bullfights that took place in August. Why would she make such a list? Besides, she hated bullfights. Any possibility there's another meaning to this list? And what about the phone number on the ATM slip?
Thanks for a great site--sz.
Somethings missing. Why is there no interview with Det. Anderson? Have there been anymore research into where Purity was for the year she was gone? I think your suspects are too "pat".
Does ED Pierce have knowledge about the $ in this case? Is it possible that the motive is $? Is there a involvment of Ed Pierce and his GirlfriendAlso was Ed Pierce involved in the religious gropups?
Could we have copies of news reports from the first Oregon box-nap, and has anyone looked at the police files up there? If Purity got stoned at the party, it would not have been a lot of trouble to get her to go along with the "game." But if her body was cleaned, obviously she was removed and replaced at least once.
Cool site! (But some of the people making comments need to read the 'reality check' - they seem to think this is real.) When it is over - have you thought of writing a book or making a movie? Only those of us surfing here will know the ending.
Pierce works (worked) in the campus computer lab. Is that lab in the same building as the library? If so, would Pierce have access to the library in a way that would permit him to "sneak" books out?
How long was the interval between the return of the book by Haag and the inventory when it was discovered missing?
quick question...are you sure the murders of the two girls are not connected in some way??? There are too may things that seem to tie the two together
In reading the note Purity ?dictacted? to Dylan, it sounds as if she is asking for Detective Anderson to help but also somewhat making it seem as if he might be the one who did this to her, but it also says Dylan can help him. If Anderson were the one he would already know where she was and wouldn't need Dylan's help unless the reference to Dylan means something else. I would like to know more about the implication of Det. Anderson in the other murder 10 years ago and are there any of the other suspects who were in or near that other murder besides Det. Anderson?
test from judith
Response: reply from judith
In reading all of the evidence information in the Valerie Vilson files I noticed some of the files were signed by L. Armstrong.
I also noticed you were "L.T.C. "Trick" Armstrong. You have explained the "Trick" name but what does L.T.C. stand for and why do you sometimes go by "L" and sometomes "T" or "Ted"? That is, assuming the "L" signature was yours.
Also, I would like to know a little more personal information about yourself - such as height/weight/age and do you smoke???
Where was the geographical map obtained,: I mean it's place of origin...not where it was received. Also, has anyone interviewd RICHARD HOWORTH, the administrator of Frank's will? He stands to gain a lot, should Purity meet an early demise. which she did. Also, consider the fact that Val had contact with Purity prior too both of their deaths...could the PI have known of this contact? I'd love to get on the chat line about this...this is my first visit to this site. Good Job!
Where was the geographicaal map obtained?
There isn't much information. Why?
Hello! I actually have a comment and a question. First off did anyone even think of Perez as a possible suspect. I mean come on! It's too perfect. Could it have been jealousy? From the look of the letters from the abductor, it seems that they had ill feelings towards the victim. Saying that she was dirty, and un pure??!! Did you look into the possibility that maybe something happened between Purity and Perez's boyfriend? Can we say Fatal Attraction?! Just a hunch, I guess! And, anyway, what was Perez's alibi for the night of the disappearance? Thanks!
i believe it was det. anderson that committed the crimes....both of the murders.....its the work of a serial killer and he has been in the wrong place at the wrong time one too many times...i believe the note Dylan had was written to Anderson pleading that he would spare her life and she would not tell on him...Dylan probably told anderson about Purity when he found her...and thats all he could have done-inform a police officer...what else does a child know to do? Anderson probably assured him he would take care of it. Dylan did not have a good realtonship with his mother to tell her...
WHY WASN'T THE BIOLOGICAL SISTER LISTED IN THE LIST?
I wonder if anderson so loved his precious website and all the attn received, that he needed another "situation"..im sure there is much more than this, but this is just a thought to add.......
In all my thirty-three years of life, this is the most painful story if ever followed. I don't know why national news media hasn't told this horrific story. I hope they catch the coward. Stephen(Knives1@aol.com).
I think you should check all past boyfriends, and get the name of the clases she has and question everyone. And see about her sisters killer. He might have some conection.
According with the ALIBI VERIFICATION we have 2 major suspetcs,Ed Pierce and Detective David Anderson.
I was lookin' in the Relevant Personal Data and I find somethings very interesting about Ed Pierce:
He's 5' 8" and Kevin Stark said that the man he saw talkin' with Dylan Tull (June 2,1997) was 5' 8".
He works in a computer lab,so he could be able to write a note using computer typeface COURIER (I'm refering to the map with a note addressed to Detective Armstrong arrived on 5 May 1997).
Last thing I notice is that Ed Pierce smokes.That could explain the "cigarette size 3rd degree burns" found on the body of Purity.
According to these 3 thing I say that Ed Pierce may be our man.I suggest to keep an eye on him for several days (he could do something important) or,anyway,push on him.
Have a nice day.
HAS ANY ONE LOOKED INTO THE POSSIBILITY THAT MR. ANDERSON AND ED PIERCE ARE PARTNES IN CRIME? IT IS POSSIBLE. DO THEY KNOW EACH OTHER? THANKS , MOLLY
Why hasn't the Tull boy been asked if Purity revealed the identity of her abductor? Or, why hasn't he been asked if he could identify the man that he gave Purity's note to? Will he be shown a picture of Detective Anderson or Ed Pierce?
that not to dave anderson looked like a child's handwriting to me. someone else noted that it seemed impossible that she could have written it give the position of her hands. could she have dictated the note and have dylan write it? and what is the matter with this kid anyway?? why didn't he tell someone (like the police) that there is a person buried in the ground....HE KNOWS SOMETHING!!!
I have a few questions. 1- Was purity nude under the plastic
and blanket when she was found? If so,(I cant tell in the photo) what happened to the green sweater and waht looks like a white tee shirt she was wearing in the second photo the abductor sent to the police? 2- do any of the suspects have wood working skills, the tools to accomplish building a coffin, or what might be diagrams for one. 3- The individual spotted at cooter's sounds to be wearing some clown or theatrical make up and acostume. Has any one gained warrent's to search all possible suspect's living quarter's for any of the above mentioned item's? Also check all area woodworking club's, votech schools, high schools, or places that rent the necessary items used to build a coffin.
Great new additions to the site! These charts really help sort out who is who and also your train of thought about the whole case.
Question: If Anderson and Pierce are the prime suspects, does that mean that everyone else is "Off the hook'? According to your Alibi Verification list, there are still some other people that are missing alibis for critical times as well as your "prime suspects".
How are you persuing the two prime suspects?
Did you have a line-up with Anderson and Pierce for Dylan and Teri (Miss J)?
Good luck and look forward to hearing your comments.
I think you should take a closer look at the note Purity wrote to Dave Anderson.You classified it as a plea for assistance, but look at the way it is worded. The line that says "Please come let me out" it seems that unless he already knew she was in there, how would he know what to do? To me, it seems she is trying to plea with him for her life.
can you please answer the questions from aug. 6, 1997 from "M" and the one from firstname.lastname@example.org we are very intrested in these facts.
There is no doubt in my mind that Purty Knight new her killer, and she was into something strange. Dylan Tull, eventhough a child by age should of come forward when he first discovered Purty buried in the woods. Why didn't he? Every person regardless of age who's whitness something that tramatic would talk about it with someone, friends, family or authorities. People just have a natural instink,(sorry about spelling), to tell. Ask this question, Why would someone give food, paper and pencil to someone buried in the ground. It doesn't make sense. Wouldn't you try to save that person? Sure you would, I would. Dylan could of been part of her abuction or a whitness then caught by the person then threatened if he told any body. It's a possibility. Dylan could be you key to solve this mystery. He knows something, or someone is keeping him from telling. Tail him, tap his phone, interview his friends. Check this kid out. He knows something. I feel it! Will be checking later on web to see updates, and I hope this information will help you.
...additional info for my profile...the suspect is a loner. He lives with a close relative, probably his mother, who he fantisizes about killing. He has tried to have normal relationships with woman but has failed. This build up of sexual inadequency has drove him into a killing mode. This is not his last time, and may not even be his first time. The discription of the suspect being thin makes me believe that this is a normally preceived weak individual who finds his strength in over powering weaker people--woman.
Who closed the victim's mouth and eyes? She appears to be at peace. Or, was she killed somewhere else and positioned that way in the ground? What was the relationship like between the victim and her sister. Did they ever compete for attention/love of the same man? The man who did this was probably 25-35 in age, a white male, low in education (maybe a high school grad)..has a deep rooted psychological disorder involving control and violence. Was abused by his mother and has or had been involved in drug abuse. In addition, this suspect problably has a long history of violence from his pre-adolencent years and has probably spent some time in correctional intstitutions. He is also local to the area and may have even seen or been in contact with the victim prior to the incident.
How's that? I'd like to know how close my profile was.
I know a short story by Poe that has to do with being buried alive: "Berenice". It probably doesn't have anything to do with this case.
Oh yeah, in my book on EAPoe, "Berenice" is on pgs. 54-56. Just thought everyone would like to know.
FROM: Max Byzantium
SUBJ: Case Leads & Suggestions
A few things Detective, First; Have you attempted to run a background check on the book the note was found in at the library. You need to go back to the library and and find out if they have a record of everyone who has checked out the book in the past year or so.. I suggest going as far back as the Valerie Vilson case on the book check!
Second; I had a close look at the interviews of Lee Perez and her boyfriend Ed, and if my intuition serves me correctly, these two are not telling you something -Lee seems very fidgity and distracted during the interview while alternating between past-tense and present references to Purity in her initial interview, and Ed's testimony seems to contradict the status of Lee and Purity's relationship. Ed stated that Lee would have nothing to do with Purity, yet Lee suggests in her initial interview that she discussed doing something together with Purity on the weekend (going to the movies).
Third; I'm curious about JOEL SHENTON from the Valerie Vilson case.. Do you happen to have any Audio materials of his interview on file? And have you thought about doing a followup on him?? You will note that he (Like Lee Perez) seems to have an interest in the Dramatic Arts. Maybe it's a dead lead, but you never know... It might also be beneficial to conduct a series of interviews with some of Perez's Drama classmates.
Is there a significance between the story that Purity told to the Tull boy wherein she used many referances to the color orange and perhaps the hair color of Greg Giblini? Futhermore, the image of a cat shows up three times in the boys drawings, a bit more that normal me thinks.
I'm trying to figure out how someone who is buried in a box, all wrapped up in some kind of plastic cover with dirt on top can write a note? The picture of Purity being buried reveals only her head. Her hands where in no way free, so how can she write a note? Was it in fact her handwriting? I'm sorry but I just don't get this part. And why is it that Dylan can not identify the man he supposingly gave the note to?
Also, in the interview with Chris Thurman it was mentioned that Dylan was more interested in going to the library instead of playing tag. Is there any connection? Has the camp-staff been checked out? Thurman said that most of the time they hire college students. Just a thought!
PS: Great site, hope there will be more once this is solved.
there is soooo much more talk to her friends.. ex boyfriends.. his friends, its all a cult thing a really feel that is it... rl95
Actually I have a comment not a question. I know this is fictional but I think it is done so well that it even fooled me for a while. This is great Fun. Thanks for this interesting site, and thankyou for your responding so quickly to peoples questions.
To the last posting person here,Below:
Don't feel badly about not knowing for sure... It is a well-constructed
site, and by this late date in the investigation,
there are tons of files and pics..Reality Check will tell you the
answer, but sometimes, even it is hard to find on the site!!
I mean, your eyes are drawn to that PICTURE, right?
READ, and then come to chat , scheduled at 8-9 PM EST nightly, accessible through
this site link. We meet every night to discuss our ideas,
compare theories, and most nights, have a special guest who
sometimes gives information before we can get it from the site in general.
I would like to say Welcome to Crimescene!
To everyone that is curious, this is all just fictional. That means that it is FAKE. Please forgive this fool for not being more clear on that. For proof, see his 1 note on this at:
Ok I'm new to this sight but there is one thing that is really bothering the hell outta me. I am a criminology student so I might be a wee bit bias here. As I recall, The pyschological profile of the killer stated that the suspect probably spent most of his free time on the internet and most of his friends are on line folks. Ok, so we all know that from the coroners report and from the guy who saw Dylan giving the suspect a note that the suspect is left handed. Also the guy said the suspect was very pale and 5 foot 8. HELLO!!!!! Why don't you'ze check who has an Internet account in the region, narrow it down to lefties, pale, 5 foot 8....bang.....case over!
Detective, Could Purity have had an internet friend. You know someone she would talk to or share Poems with. Just a thought..
Does Archer walk his dog same time every day?
First of all was purity in a cult? And who is Dave and Dylan?
Find this bastiard... He is making me sick. Even if it means you lose a little sleep. I have never seen anything like this before, and I've lost a lot of sleep just thinking about it.
FIND HIM AT ALL COSTS!
Detctive , has there been any connection between the victim and someone close. Most urders are commited by someone the victim knows? One thing to remember is that everyone is a suspect until proven that they are not.
The suspect listed in the police report for the stalking is 5 ft 8 in tall. Owens confessed, but according to his New York police report, he is 6 ft 5 in. This doesn't fit.
The suspect for the stalking is 5'8", small of build and wearing dark clothing. So is the unknown person who was seen talking to Dylan. This person was also described as 'pale,' and clean shaven. And according to the witness, and the coroner's report, he is left handed.
Ed Pierce seems to fit this description fairly closely. From his Campus ID, it is noticed that he is rather emaciated, and is wearing dark clothing (which can be a preference, which is common to those with certain similar musical tastes). His height is not listed, so I can make no comparison in that respect. He does have a beard in the photo. I was wondering if in the area of June 2nd he was in fact clean shaven. And also, is he right or left handed?
Other facts interesting in his bio are that he is familiar with English classes. So apparently is the killer, who sent the police poems, and seemed to enjoy Poe. Pierce also works in the computer lab, and most likely has ample access to the type of laser printer suspected of making the notes sent to police. Also notable, he was interested in the theater, as was Val.
As for motive, I'm not sure. But I hope these observations help in some way.