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Could be that the "missing children" trust managed by Marilee Kearns is a sophisticated money laundering operation.
Either Ms. Kearns or the "up and quit" environmental engineer might be found at a harbor on Enid Lake. That is the direction in which Lamar was heading the night of the crash. If Lamar suddenly found out he had been betrayed, he probably would have tried to go directly to make a bust. Perhaps someone made a slip at his nightly poker game, and he realized how badly he had been duped.
Mystery Gal

None is related. She disappeared because she was kidnapped. Her father's death was tragic but it did not have anything to with her disappearance. The escapees were just a coincidence.

I just started in on this case so bare with me. Victoria Symons is obviously not telling the truth. When was asked during questioning, "And there was no one else in the trailer at that time? You were alone in the trailer from the time Ed left to when you went to see Sheila Penn..." , Victoria responded by saying, "Yes - there was no one with us." Who did Victoria mean by us? "US" is plural so there was obviously someone there with her that she didn't want to tell the detective about. Why did the detective not quiz her on this? Victoria also said that it was Ed's friends in New Orleans yet Victoria's co-worker, Kerry Voller, said that Victoria was the ones with friends in New Orleans. Victoria should be questioned about that as well. Victoria also told her mother in a recorded phone conversation that Ed didn't want her anymore because of the other girl. What other girl? Victoria was in Beeville, TX when that call was placed. I think our gal Vicky needs to be looked at and questioned a little closer. As for Macy, it is unlikely that someone could have forcibly abducted her from the Mall without someone noticing. Yet had she been unwittingly lured away by someone she knew, why would her personal effects end up in the trash can at the Mall? This would lead one to believe that Macy disappeared on her own accord yet that doesn't fit her either. Alien abduction, anyone? Just Kidding. I would also like to know what Macy's blood type is. Please give us something that we can grasp. Thanks. White004

OK, this may not be right so go along with me on this one. It's a play by play account of what might've happened:
1. Macy heard through the grapevine about the dump near the
Dickerson and that it was a popular place for teens.
2. She became curious and decided to check it out. But she knew her dad would never go for it so she decided to sneak
out when she went to the mall with her mom.
3. Once Macy was alone and after she went to the music store, she sneaked out of the mall accidentally bumping into ED and dropping her library card.
4. Macy got to the place and saw something incriminating.
5. Since A&A think Chambeau was responsible for turning that
property, Macy could've figured out that all that illegal dumping belonged to Chamby (my name for Chambeau) and wanted to tell her dad.
6. Chamby knew she knew and hired two thugs to kidnapp her and take her out of the state where nobody can find her.
7. The thugs took Macy out of Yoknapatawpha County and up to Memphis.
8. Macy was beginning to get smart. She wanted to figure out a way to attract attention to them. One of the ways was pretending to fall down and sprain her ankle.
9. The thugs aren't like those thugs on Home Alone. They're smarter than her. They don't buy her act. Now they're trying to drag Macy out of the country. They could be headding for Canada. My advice: Set up blockades on every road running in and out of Memphis.
Thank you,
Steve a.k.a. Phanto5692

The daughter killed Her dad because He arrested Her lover, Ed Pierce. Ed and the other guy, along with the daughter ran away, after stealing and ditcvhing the car. Obviously, She is very unhappy with Herself...hmmmm...

I feel that Pierce and the other convict were probably the ones to steal the car and drive away. But I dont see how the men could have kidnapped the girl. The witness said 2 men got into the car (but he said nothing of a girl). Also it is probably difficult to kidnap somebody from a mall b/c there are lots of people there. Well good luck. Keep up the good work!!!

I think that when Macy and her mother split up, she went to the music store, as we already know. Then she saw her father, and they started to talk; she should not have felt any fear speaking with him. Sheriff Lamar was tired of living and wanted to LIVE before he died. He took her to the parking lot, saying that they had plenty of time before 6:00. He took her to the car of the escaped criminals. His reason for all of this was to get back at his wife by taking away what she cared about most: Macy.

What happened to the audience files, chat summaries, and the tipline?

11-26-97

NO RESPONSES for WEEKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my opionion the daughter was talking to the 2 men who later escaped. She came up with the idea of the escape and the kidnapping. She is rebelious and would like to get back at her parents for the divorce. She let it get out of hand and is now alone. She talked to the men through letters and decided that it would hurt her mother and father if she was taken from them. Plus I think that the fathers accident was not an accident, thhe 2 men set that up.

Well I think that Sheriff Lamar had some kind of gambling problem and when he had no money he offered his daughter as a prize so these escaped convicts took his daughter.

He killed himself cause he couldn't take the guilt.

I would still like to see a search warrant executed on the property of the Dickerson project. I believe there are sufficient grounds to obtain it, and if not, speak with the first guy who was hired by Gilbert to perform the environmental assessment of the property but then mysteriously abandoned the project. I'm sure this guy is a gold mine of information.

Next, can we obtain a full listing of all of Reed Chambeau's property holdings including out of state (California, New Orleans, Tennessee, Texas, etc) with addresses. I still believe that Pierce was hired (maybe indirectly) by Chambeau or an associate to kidnap Macy and exchange her at one of Chambeau's properties (perhaps these were the circles on the road map found in the first stolen car). Pierce decided to "sell" Macy when he got to New Orleans.

I'd like to see Gilbert, Chambeau, Harberson, and Symons all interviewed again and more thoroughly.

Also, what evidence was used to construct the computerized crash-scene simulation? With what proof did they conclude that another car struck Lamar's? We needed to know this too.

And what happened to the dummy that was dropped off the bridge? And what alternative plan was created to free Pierce and Phelps in case the dummy trick didn't work?

Sorry, in my earlier post I stated that Lamar's killer and Macy's kidnapper name was Dick Dade. His name is Dick Dale. Please correct.

I originally thought that Gilbert and Chambeau were working together, but the more I read and the more I investigate I do not believe this to be true any more. I think that Chambeau is the true evildoer. I think Gilbert fell into Chambeau's hands with the Dickerson project. Gilbert thought this project would be a good oportunity, but he did not do his homework and did not realize who he was dealing with.

Chambeau hired Amiee to keep an eye on things at City Hall. She was to keep him posted on the progress of the Dickerson project. When the consultant that was hired by Gilbert got close to filing a report, Chambeau paid him off. Chambeau also found out from Aimee that Sheriff Lamar promised to help Gilbert get his project through all the red tape in exchange for Gilbert's help with Lamar's campaign. Chambeau decided to distroy Lamar because he knew he could not be bought off. Chambeau hired Dick Dade, Lamar's gambling buddy, to kidnap Lamar's daughter and set up the accident that would aid in the escape of Pierce and Phelps. The man, Dick Dade, sited on the railroad bridge by the deputies driving the van while transporting Pierce and Phelps was hired by Chambeau. The officer that has recently come out of his coma stated in his interview " I remember Vernon yelled "Look out!" all of a sudden. I kind of saw something dropping off the bridge, out of the corner of my eye - it looked like a person." When the deputy was asked "Do you remember anything else about what dropped off the bridge?", the deputy responded " Not really, only I thought it might be a person. Oh - and I guess there was somebody else standing above, yes, because I remember thinking why didn't they stop him from jumping." I do not believe there were two people on that bridge. Dick Dade was the only person, and the other person was a dummy that was thrown off the bridge to scare the driver and cause the accident.

After Lamar was reelected, he realized that Aimee was using him and didn't really love him. She found out that he was going to really focus on the Dickerson project and this is when Chambeau decided he would have to kill Lamar. He told Aimee to get out of town so she would have an alibi. Chambeau ordered Dick Dade to kill Lamar. Dick was someone that Sheriff Lamar knew. Dick came to the Sheriff's house and found Lamar in a self reflecting mood. The sheriff had taken his valium and the bottle was sitting on the table by the booze. Dick, saw the valium and made the rest of Lamar's drinks. Lacing each one with a little valium. He also saw the letter of resignation, aka the suicide note, the Sheriff was typing and decided this would make a great suicide note. After making sure that Lamar had too much to drink he washed out the glass and left the house. He got in his Ford F150 and drove out to Hwy 7. He made a call to Lamar on his car phone and lured him to the crash site. He told Lamar he had something to show him or he knew where Macy was. Lamar, got in his car and drove to the crash site. Dick, was hiding on the side of the road and when he saw Lamar's vehicle he pulled in behind him and ran him off the road.

In order to prove my theory, I need more information on Dick Dade and the sheriff's other gambling buddies. This evidence is being withheld from us. Please post it to the site next week. My dummy theory was proved last night in the chat session. Det. Phillips said that he also believed that the body thrown off the bridge was a dummy. My only question and Det. Phillips was unable to answer is why was there no mention of this dummy in the evidence found at the accident site?
I might be wrong about Dick Dade, but I have a strong feeling he is the local that is doing Chambeau's dirty work. He is a gambler and maybe he owes a lot of money to Chambeau or one of Chambeau's friends. Chambeau saw an easy mark and is using him. Chambeau owns property in every location of this story. He owns the mall where Macy was kidnapped. He owns property in New Orleans, Texas, Las Vegas where Pierce and Vickie held up for a few days at the time. He owns the Dickerson property. He owns property in Alabama where the hang up call came from to Caroline Blanchard. He owns property in Memphis Tenn where Macy was sited by the lady in the apartment complex. It is so obvious to me. I don't know why the police have not focused in on him. Thank goodness Armstrong and Anderson are checking him out.

Hey, Macy ran away on her on free will. she conspired in the killing of Wilson and Purity Knight. It is all one big mystery tied together. Macy is tied up with some kind of Mob or Mafia. That is my theory.



Nice job on the investigation everyone.

Detective William Scarlett

You guys should really update the tipline. It still says something about the tipline focusing on the capture of Edward Pierce and Anthony Marcus Phelps.

We beleive that the Father had something to do with it. He had a guilty conscience resulting in suicide.

You know, if you read the "suicide note," it sounds less like a suicide note and more like a resignation or something like that. He doesn't say "I'm killing myself," or "I'm sorry I'm leaving," or anything. He sounds as if he is confessing to something - and then someone interupted him, killed him and took advantage of the note to make it seem like suicide. Perhaps his girlfriend, maybe the people he was helping with the landfill, but I think it would have had to have been someone who didn't know him very well. Otherwise, the murderer wouldn't have signed CHARLES, but Chuck.

As to what Lamar was "confessing" to, my personal favorite is that he is confessing to the Proud Larry Rapes. They weren't committed by Tony Phelps (the last one was, but not the others).

What does everybody think?

Shannon

How close is Florence, Alabama to New Orleans?

I think that Charles Lamar caught Ed Pierce and Anthony Phelps and sent them to jail. The criminals might have sent a letter to Macy's father saying that because he turned them into the police something bad would happen to him. So instead of waiting for them to kill him, Charles Lamar killed himself. When hearing this news Ed and Anthony must have figured out another way to get Charles back for sending them to prison. So they kidnapped Macy Lamar to get her father back. The criminals must have killed her or left her someplace to die of starvation or maybe a place where there was no air. They wouldn't leave her just anywhere so she could be under a house or in a hidden cupboard at a house far away from Oxford, where Macy went missing.


Detective Kathy of Melbourne Australia

My theory is that Harold Mazza is involved and monetarily supported by the Italian Mafia. Mazza made a deal with the Mafia to kidnap the Sheriff's daughter in an attempt to have him not run for the Sheriff's office, or to recuse himself as Sheriff if he won. When they contacted him, he became extremely angry and told them he would expose them to the press and see that they were prosecuted. The Mafia took care of him the way they take care of everyone who stands in their way, just like the Kennedys, Marilyn Monroe and all of the other victims of their cruel resolutions to problems. The Sheriff's father's death was probably perpetrated by the Mafia, as well! I believe the Mafia is alive and well and desire to have Sheriffs in their pocket. This is my opinion!

I believe that the sheriff was murdered and this is unrelated to Macy's alleged kidnapping. I believe he stumbled onto something when he was looking into "things" for Gilbert at the assessors office. In an attempt to distract the Sheriff from getting too close, Aimee was sent to take his mind off the reall issue having to do with Gilbert's project. The sheriff was relentless...Aimee was trapped since she was being blackmailed into seducing the Sheriff (for her past indiscretions). She panicked and slipped the Sheriff a micky. There is no way he committed suicide!!

Who is the mechanic that was responsible for investigating the crach when pierce escaped?? maybe he is having a "to do " with Aimee and advised her how to stage the accident....

I think the most recent rape is not connected to the other Proud Larry rapes. The whole sense of it is different: she hadn't been in Larry's that night, she was indoors, she could identify the rapist in a line-up. Nonw of the other victims could ID the guy - probably because it wasn't him. Lumping the others in with the latest (or vice versa) really clouds the issue because if you treat them separately - the rapist is still out there. Do we know where the dead sheriff was at the times of the attacks?

The psychic Madame Raylene stated that something was buried that was related to Macy's disappearance, something very big, but that she was not dead. I think that maybe when she was shopping with her mom at the mall, she overheard, or bumped into Chambeau discussing his plans regarding the proposed business park or unveiled the details of what exactly IS buried there. Macy threatened to inform her father the Sherriff of her findings, at which point, Chambeau grabbed her. Everything snowballed from there, and Chambeau contacted Lamar and told him to call of the snooping around of his new property because he had his daughter. Once the Sherriff agreed in order to get his daughter back, Chambeau and Mazza tried to use Macy for more leverage in getting Lamar to throw the election in favour of Mazza. Chambeau didn't know about Gilbert assisting Lamar and Mazza was outraged when he discovered the partnership between Lamar and Gilbert.
I think it was Aimee Harberson that was at the Sherriff's home the night of his "murder" and spiked his drinks with valium, and then typed the note herself. She then revealed all of the details to Lamar and had him sign the note. She told him why Macy was being held and what was buried under the new building site. She wasn't worried about him knowing because she was going to kill and frame it like a suicide, or make him kill himself once he was drugged up. Lamar freed himself from Harberson and started driving toward the building site in his car when either Harberson, Chambeau or both followed in their car(s) and rammed him off the road.

Let's get the FBI to obtain search warrants for Chambeau's new proposed business park building site, and for Aimee Harberson's home residence to link her to the valium.

In my opinion Sherrif Lamar did not commit suidide.
Why would he make a point to say that he wasnt being forced to do it that it was his free will?
And why was the letter typed? Maybe it's just me.
novnov

This may be a stretch, but it is definitely worth a shot. I think that once Sheriff Lamar began to investigate the hold up with Chambeau's property dealings, Chambeau hired Aimee to help throw the Sheriff off the track, by having an affair with him. Although the sheriff was smitten with Aimee, he still investigated the hold up. Seeing this Chambeau set up an elaborate scheme to have Pierce escape and kidnap Macy. The night that Ms. Blanchard recieved that phone call, she suspected it was Macy and called the Sheriff, who then proceeded out to Chambeau's office park thinking that the call came from out there. It was said that the Sheriff had a guest at his house that drugged his drink. The most plausible person would have to be Aimee. If she was working for Chambeau she would certainly drug sheriff Lamar, and under the influence of drugs(or at gunpoint) the sheriff could have been forced to write a suicide note.Forgery is an even bigger possibility. Knowing that Sheriff Lamar was heading to where Macy may be, Aimee could have easily called Chambeau and told him to stop Lamar. This is where the second vehicle in the computer simulation comes in. It seems to me that there is way too much secrecy in Oxford and we are not getting the depth in these interviews that is necessary to solve this brainbuster of a case. However, my gut tells me this thing is about to blow up into something like an atomic bomb.

I think that the escaped convict did not kidnap her. I think that her boyfriend kidnapped her when he realized she was seeing his father.

I think that Charles Lamar had some kind of involvement in his daughters death or was somehow involved with the two men that excaped from prision and their deaths.

Here's a thought...

Macy disappeared just after Lamar offered to explore delays in getting an environmental consultant...

After Lamar offered to check for Gilbert into the delays in the supervisors' office and the assessor's office, he probably asked Aimee to help him get to the bottom of it. When Aimee played dumb (she has a real acting career ahead for her, I think), maybe, just maybe, Lamar asked his super-smart computer-wise daughter to see what she could find, just to help out dear old dad.

Macy may have uncovered the complicity of dad's squeeze in trying to freeze Gilbert out of ever getting an inspection done and being able to develop the Dickerson project on Highway 334. Aimee may have been at the mall meeting with Chambeau for her payoff (cash doesn't leave a trail) for helping at the assessor's office and abetting the escape of Pierce and Phelps. Macy may have spotted the two together, and then was perhaps dumb enough (we act stupid when we are emotionally involved) to confront Aimee.

Why stop the Dickerson project? Perhaps Chambeau makes his money similar to a loan shark. If Gilbert had to put up money for the project, there was probably a performance clause in their agreement. If permits weren't obtained by "x" date, Gilbert might have to forfeit his nut.

I suspect that the environmentalist who "up and quit" was paid or threatened by Chambeau to disappear. Or the environmentalist found something, and Chambeau was able to buy him off. (Profiteering from depositing NYC's garbage still appeals to me; or Chambeau struck a deal with the U.S. Army to bury nuclear test materials that no town wants, either!)

(Aimee was backed by Chambeau, I can feel it in my bones!)

Follow the money! Put the flambeau on Chambeau!
Mystery Gal

First thing I would like to mention, is that I am quite impressed with the updates this week, including the updated link on the home page to Macy's investigation.

Lots of information to discuss today...

The computer simulated car crash was excellent, if it can be reliable.. is it really possible to determine that another car ran Sherriff Lamar off the road? If so, this is groundbreaking news! Jeez, so many new developments.. ok, here's my updated theory:

The hangup call to Mrs. Blanchard was from Macy and she is being held at one of Champeau's out of state property holdings but she was disconnected by someone who caught her at her end of the line. Now I believe more than ever that Champeau is involved (see interview with guy Mazza tried to finger - can't remember name and Armstrong & Anderson PI web site). Champeau had some special plans for the land that he bought in Oxford and when Sherriff Lamar started snooping around to see what was taking so long, he started to discover the real plan of Champeau's (don't want to speculate TOO much). This led to Champeau finding Macy at the mall (being the owner of the mall) and kidnapping her, or maybe it was planned. Somehow, Champeau had Ed Pierce transport Macy to his out of state property (which also explains how Tony Phelps got Macy's library card). After Ed left her, that's when he suddenly came into that large amount of money that Victoria Symons couldn't account for when Ed didn't want to talk about. Pierce was an idiot, and his involvement after that was none. Champeau agreed to pay Pierce a large sum of money upon Macy's delivery. Now the day of the Sherriff's (rather ex-sherriff) untimely death (after viewing video likely murder), I think he either knew of the hangup call to Mrs. Blanchard or he received some similar news of his own. He hopped in his car and was either planning on driving straight out of state where Macy's call was from, or he was going to Champeau's new Oxford farm (alleged business park). An earlier comment was made that Lamar had a guest in his house who drugged his drink.. that is a good explanation of his intoxicated state, I can't figure that part out.

(Sorry this is such a long message)

Ok, NOW.. Det's Armstrong and Anderson are on the right track investigating Champeau's business activities. This may still well be able to be tied into some of Charles Lamar's gambling activities. Perhaps checking the damaged mailbox near the crash site will provide paint samples to help identify the alleged second vehicle, as well as checking if the skid marks at the mailbox match those of Lamar's car or if they will also provide a clue as to the second vehicle.
Also, didn't the guy who was interviewed this update say that the assessor's office was involved in Champeau's property? Didn't Aimee Harberson work for the assessor's office?

Here's an ugly thought, verging on a theory:

Let's suppose that after Chambeau bought the dairy farm on Highway 334, he made a deal through the New York Mafia (hence the NY Italian restaurant with coins) to allow dumping from NYC's famous stinking garbage barge! There would certainly be a lot of money in that deal. That is one kind of landfill...

Was Macy involved in Oxford Green? That would fit with her profile. She may have uncovered the environmental scandal, with her intelligence. Let's ask Caroline Blanchard, Tom Westerbeke, and Sharon Atherton. It would be nice to see a list of Oxford Green members, and to know who heads it up.

Mystery Gal

If someone REALLY wanted to commit suicide and leave a personal message to explain themselves to those who care about them, wouldn't one want to leave a personal note, and not a typewritten one?
Any typos in the letter? If not, how could a seriously impaired and drugged Sherriff Lamar create a perfectly structured manuscript like that?

I think someone was with him at his home, someone he knew that was close to him, to have a few drinks. Whoever this person was, slipped the valium into his drinks and typed up the suicide note. They then forced him to drive the car and was going to kill the Sherriff and bring him to the same site where Macy's body (alive or dead) is located. Or if not kill him, they were going to at least detain him in the same manner as they had done to Macy. I'm not sure what happened in the car, perhaps the mailbox incident he was trying to get free from the car or whatever. Unsure of whether or not suspect escaped from car before or after crash.

Now, who does he know that personally? Aimee Harberson?, his estranged wife? Any other close friends?


ALSO!!!!!! --> When will we see some replies to these theories again?

Response:I promise to answer these questions after I take a nap to recover from today's update 11/17/97. Look for answers tonite.

Okay this is my theory:
Ed Peirce and Anthony Phelps were budddies in jail and always planned of a way out of jail. On there way to where they were heading in the van Ed and Anthony somehow caused the accident going around the curve and escaped when they had the chance. After they had escaped they planned to kill Sheriff Lamar for some reason--maybe he treated them harshly. So that night they followed him to to the bar Lamar always goes to probably...then followed him home. Sheriff Lamar, being too drunk to protect himself, was lured into a deathtrap by Ed and Anthony and i dont know how but made Lamar kill himself. After they had killed him Anthony thought that maybe Ed got more of the action trying to kill Lamar, and Anthony got jealous and went into a rage. While in the rage he pulled out a gun he stole from the cops in the tipped over van and shot Ed for no reason but jealousy. Anthony, realizing he couldn't stay in town for too long, saw a young girl, who this time was Macy, and kidnapped her for "entertainment value" and stole a car and drove out of town.
That is my theory. I put a lot of thought into it and i hope to get a response from you to see how close i was to the truth. And as the X-Files say "The Truth Is Out There".

First, why was he wearing his seatbelt at the time of the crash?
Second, check Miss Blanchards computer for the file she was
allegedley making for the church. Why of all nights was she
just now talking to her brother who she never talks to.

I was a student at Ole Miss from 1989-1993. I know the scandals
in Oxford.

Could he have had Macy kidnapped? Very possible.
could the kidnappers been Pierce and Symons? Very Possible Too coincidental.
Geena? Is this Geena Davis? Thelma and Louise?
Symons definitely aided the escape. No question.
Did Lamar set up the escape? Very Possible.
Sounds much like a movie, but it sure seems real.
Lamar wanted to be the good guy.
Needed a little more publicity to win, because he knew he
was going to be beat.
You might want to look into that "Good Ol' Boy" connection
a little bit more. Oxford is it's own little mafiaso.
Few people control the whole town.

Jeffswsdom@aol.com
Jeff C.

First, why was he wearing his seatbelt at the time of the crash?
Second, check Miss Blanchards computer for the file she was
allegedley making for the church. Why of all nights was she
just now talking to her brother who she never talks to.

I was a student at Ole Miss from 1989-1993. I know the scandals
in Oxford.

Could he have had Macy kidnapped? Very possible.
could the kidnappers been Pierce and Symons? Very Possible Too coincidental.
Geena? Is this Geena Davis? Thelma and Louise?
Symons definitely aided the escape. No question.
Did Lamar set up the escape? Very Possible.
Sounds much like a movie, but it sure seems real.
Lamar wanted to be the good guy.
Needed a little more publicity to win, because he knew he
was going to be beat.
You might want to look into that "Good Ol' Boy" connection
a little bit more. Oxford is it's own little mafiaso.
Few people control the whole town.

Jeffswsdom@aol.com
Jeff Cosman

IT WAS MRS GREEN,

IN THE TOMATOE GARDEN,

WITH A SALAD FORK.



HER MOTIVE:..........

TOMATOE SAUCE

To RAMA TX:
{and the authors of this site}

From: Sherlock Holmes

I thank you for the "compliment"?? but I remind you, in case you do not know, that this case is just as fictional as most of my own. This sheriffs dept does NOT exist [thank the lord] nor are some of its reported actions remotely plausible.I bear no grudge against fictional characters.
But I do feel that I have posed the most viable theories possible based on the paultry "evidence" we have been offered in the last two months. I think the evidence and the site in general has been steadily deteriorating. Where once there were unanswered questions there now seems to be no case at all. The authors seem incapable of tying a case together and so kill off their suspects before answers can be found.
When a psychopath like Pierce is finally arrested you usually cannot shut them up, they want to talk so much!!!! He WAS in custody for DAYS, yet they never even took a statement from him!!! The authors of these stories should plot out there whole case BEFORE starting down the garden path, and THEN they should have a central character, 'THE SLEUTH', LEAD US TO EVIDENCE AND KEY QUESTIONS. Hint at things and let us draw conclusions, + NOT come out of left field with a conclusion.
I came on after the Wilson case was solved, but I read many comments that said the whole motive for the crime came out of nowhere, and in fact we NEVER DID LEARN the identity of private detective who committed two of the killings. For all we know HE is still at large.
In conclusion, the only "resentment" I am feeling is for the fact that more and more I feel I am wasting my time at this site as more and more meaningless information is thrust upon us instead of any actual evidence.

ARE YOU LISTENING ??!!!???!!! SH

I believe that these two men did take the girl but I don't think that they knew who she was. I believe that if they did have her that they killed her, they didn;t want to take any chances so they just killed her and dumped her body somewhere out of town at least near the town so that she would be found after they were out of town.

MsTree,
Sorry, but if you will check the Tips page for 11/9 you will see that Mr. Paul J. of Pearidge Road called and reported a car that had gone at high speeds, swerved off road, knocked his mail box down. He said he "heard the screech of tires". This was after the initial investigagion and hadn't been checked as it was 3.5 miles from the final crash.

It's obvious that someone from the sheriffs department may have had something to do with the abduction of Macy. However, who actually ahs her. Everyone who was even close to being involved is DEAD! There is not enough info on Chambeau or Aimee Harberson. It is possible that Lamar was using the sympathy vote to win and it wnet sour.

Det. Nelson,
Has anyone spoken to Bob Gilbert? He has motive I would like to see if he had opportunity.
Also what's the report on Phillips is he coming out of the coma?
Finally What is up with the investigation on the mailbox incident the night Lamar was killed.

~Detective Pembleton

i d not know

Caroline said in her interview that Macy was a very responsible person. That was why she was worried right
from the start when Macy was late. She said she contacted
a security guard when Macy was 15 - 20 minutes late and called the sheriff when Macy was late by one hour. There is no mention about being hysterical but she did say it was her
female intuition that made her call the sheriff. It seems
that her mental state was fairly stable.
- P.D.Spencer
Valium is perscibed for a vareity of mental conditions.
The prefered chaser for valium is water. Not Alcohol.

Caroline said in her interview that Macy was a very responsible person. That was why she was worried right
from the start when Macy was late. She said she contacted
a security guard when Macy was 15 - 20 minutes late and called the sheriff when Macy was late by one hour. There is no mention about being hysterical but she did say it was her
female intuition that made her call the sheriff. It seems
that her mental state was fairly stable.
- P.D.Spencer
Valium is perscibed for a vareity of mental conditions.
The prefered chaser for valium is water. Not Alcohol.

Surely, we are not going to take Caroline Blanchard's identification of the Sheriff's handwriting to be the last word. I find it odd that a suicide note written on "Chuck"
Lamar's note paper would be signed "Charles".

In many cases, Valium is prescribed to calm down hysterical victims of violent crimes...and their families.

Does anyone recall if Caroline Blanchard was hysterical when they discovered Macy missing? I don't remember, and I can't seem to find it.

Ms Blanchard would know about the Sherriff's drinking habits, and if she found out about his (alleged) involvement in Macy's disappearance it would seem she then had a motive for murder. -Lee

Ms. Marple, no skid marks were found, per the accident report. I wonder if anyone could harm him within the vehicle and escape at that high speed without leaving evidence. I think the head, neck injuries look suspicious as well. I agree that the fastened seatbelt makes suicide look unlikely. Surely he would know not to mix valium and alcohol, so I suspect that someone drugged him. He might well have had valium on hand (have the police checked whether he had a prescription? At any rate, valium would be easier to get than rufies.).
Mystery Gal

Just a thought.
If the sheriff had been drinking,the alcohol would
double the valium and I think the sheriff would know that.
If he was not comitting suicide he surely knew he was going
to sleep very soon. Mabey that is why he had the seatbelt
on in the car. It seems what ever he was doing he did not plan on leaving home anytime soon. Something must have come
up to drive him from his home.

I think that this "Sherlock Holmes" is severly bent.He seems
to have a strong resentment towards the police/law enforce-
ment officials.I think that he should focus his attention on
viable theories and viable suspects.He is obviously intell-
igent ... in a "BENT" sort of way.


R AMA. TX.

I would like to know if you have done a complete inspection on the sheriff's vehicle. It appears to me that perhaps the sheriff was knocked unconscious (damage to neck and head), then maybe foot pedal braced in order to go at high speed. The sheriff probably come to when his car hit the mail box, he tried to brake but going at such high speeds he went into a spin and crashed into field. Note was left by someone else.

MsMarple

This is a hint to the Oxford Eagle: Keep trying to get a comment from Mrs. Blanchard. Even though she said she was somewhere else, she could be lying. Also have her and Aimee take a polygraph.

Hmm...It sounds as if there is some foul play going on
here. The sheriff's breaklines could have been cut resulting in the car crash.

I believe that Sheriff Lamar didn't write that note as a
suicide note. I think he leaving the county to start a new
life(hence the seatbelt). Unfortunately he lost control of
his car and killed himself. I would do an extensive search
of his car to see if he had bags packed and an extensive
search of his house to see if anything was missing. I would
also check his bank accounts to see if there were any unusual withdrawls within the last couple of days. As Aimee said, he didn't seem to be the type to kill himself even if under alot of stress.(Maybe a mental breakdown)

I think that it is highly possible that the Sherriff Lamar was going to commit suicide in his home after drinking and ingesting drugs, for guilt over Macy, or whatever reason. But then I think something happened that made him reconsider or leave his house in his car. He was either running away from someone/something, or trying to get somewhere fast. The alcohol in his system, disabled him from properly maneuvering his car at such high speeds and he crashed.. hence the seatbelt, he wasn't committing suicide..
But this is obviously the new death of which the psychic Madame Raylene spoke of in the new Tipline.
Just in case I'm right, is it possible to check telephone records at Sherriff lamar's home for that night?

Lamar did not kill himself. Like others said, he would not wear a seatbelt if he was going to crash his car. I do believe that he may have written the note, but it is not necessarily a suicide note. It could be just a note stating that he is leaving his life there behind. Meaning he will go away to some other place.

Maybe Sheriff Lamar kidnapped and killed his daughter
and could not live with it.
Karla

I have a few questions... Well statments actually. If Sheriff Lamar wanted to commited suicide why didnt he just use his gun. Being a law inforcement officer he surely had access to one. Secondly, If he wanted to commite suicide in his car, why was his seatbelt on. Normally one that wants to die is not going to have his personel safety in mind. Another thing that I found interesting was that in the supposed suicide note it said "It's the cowards road but it suits me. I've sacrificed too much to live
as an honorable man." Then I read Caroline Blanchard's chat discussion and the question was asked " Ms. Blanchard, how well does your family know Mayor Rankin?" Then her reply was "The Mayor? We've known him for years now, he's a very good man...very honorable." This seemed kind of odd... Most people dont discribe others in this fashion. Has the signature been checked by a qualified person? Another question I have is why is it that everytime the mention of the word "runway" seems to put Ms. Blanchard into an uproar? It seems to me (and I know I may be way off here) that Caroline Blanchard definetly had a part in her EXhusbands death. Of course, evidence would be really nice to have to prove this! :) Ý

Sheriff Lamar did not commit suicide. No one would ever choose such a horrific death nor would they wear a seatbelt.

Detective, why don't you look at the Walmart that's being constructed near the same place where Sheriff Lamar was killed. Look into that.

Just one simple question to the officials who are content with the "suicide" note (which, btw, could so easily be forged, since only the signature was handwritten):

Why would a man intending to kill himself via car crash be wearing his seat belt?

NC Gal

Could this story possibly get any more complicated than it already is? When do we finally get some good solid information, that cannot be disputed?

I wouldn't let Aimee leave town, if I were you. If I could have forged Lamar's signature (easily), I am sure Aimee could, too. It also makes me wonder if Aimee has a special talent for forging signatures, and may have exercised it in the Assessor's office.

Chambeau and Gilbert are the culprits. Who would go to the extra expense of building a special foundation just to build on a swampy piece of land, UNLESS they wanted to bury something permanently!
Mystery Gal

Come on, you guys, is good help that hard to find? For most of last week, your main Crimescene page listed Lavar's mistress Aimee as the guest in chat. Every night, someone not familiar with the Interrogation schedule would stumble into the chat room, wondering where Aimee was. And just yesterday, you finally changed that caption......but now it says "Hear the debate of the year" and "Will Sheriff Lamar keep his job" Well, go figure! The debate AND the election were nearly a week a go!
It may seem trivial but details like this really take away from the Crimescene experience. Not to mention the fact that its confusing not ever knowing who the guest in chat will be.

Possibilty: Let's say, for argument's sake, that Chambeau nabs the daughter, then fixes the election, all the while laying severe pressure on Lamar to keep legal actoin away from the illegal gambling ops. Chambeau then says that after a certain amount of time, the daughter gets released, and makes it known that the daughter can again be nabbed. conclusion: Chambeau says; "Lay off our operations, we let you be sherriff, and your daughter stays alive."

Here's a thought.... Mazza's rage at his actual loss of the election may be because of all the trouble he's gone through to win the election. Like, say, having the current sheriff's daughter kidnapped? Think about it. If Mazza can come from nowhere, start taking the county by storm, and then, all of a sudden, the current sheriff's daughter comes up missing at the same time as a murderer and a rapist escape from prison, it would make the current sheriff look pretty incompetent and pretty much open the door to the office for Mazza. Or so he thought. I think some heavy investigation needs to be done in Mazza's direction, since Pierce is dead and there are no other leads as to where Macy is.

One quick question in addition to my theory..who was responsible for counting the votes in the town elections. Wouldn't that be handled through the clerks department? Would Aimee have the ability to create 200 or so votes in favor of Lammar?

well...first off, since both previous suspects are dead, and there were no fingerprints to link her to anywhere that they had been sighted, it is time to move on. There are two theories bouncing around in my head that I thought I would get off my chest. First off, what more could Mazza ask for than an opponant for sherif that can even protect his own family (granted if he took her for this reason his plan failed). But along those same lines..exactly how mad was Macy at her father over his affair? Mad enough to try to get revenge? Her best friend stated that she just wanted her mother to be happy, would Lammar being essentially run out of office by a resouding defeat achieve her happiness? Would the fact that he would no longer me a man in uniform cause Aimee to loose interest? With no job and a potentially unstable relationship, it would certainly cause much unhappiness on Lammars part. Knowing that the election was coming up could she have faked her own dissapearance? If she left the mall of her own accord, she probably would have thrown her purse in the trash, or in the bushes near by where the two moneyless convicts could easly find it. After taking what they wanted, and a library card being of no use to them, they would have abandoned it somewhere...why not just leave it for the motel house keeper to throw way with the rest of the trash in thier room.

I haven't read everything yet but maybe you should follow the
same M.O. of Pierce Corpus Christi is a densly wooded area
and rather large.

I haven't read everything yet but maybe you should follow the
same M.O. of Pierce Corpus Christi is a densly wooded area
and rather large.

My what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. It is pretty evident from the sheriff's polygraph that he has some secrets he wants to keep about Macy, his gambling, Chambeau, Mazza, and many other things that are going on in that town. It is also pretty evident that Macy's disappearance helped Sheriff Lamar in the election.
I think it is safe to assume that the Sheriff is involved with Macy's vanishing act. the toubling part is that, what kind of father helps kidnap his own child for his own personal gain? I believe the theory that connects the Sheriff to Ed Pierce's escape and macy's disappearance is close to the truth. i think that maybe we need to take a closer look at the Sheriff's mistress. She could very well be the missing link with all the information we need, after all she did work in one of the county offices. She, more than anybody, needed to see the Sheriff get re-elected. Maybe she couldn't see herself in a relationship with an out of work, over the hill, sheriff? And finally, doesn't it seem odd that both the Sheriff and Ms. Blanchard are not being supportive of each other in the absence of their daughter. Most parents would at least come together to deal with the kidnapping of a child they created together. These two seem to be at laugerheads with on another. Am i the only one that has noticed that? Can't the detectives see this too?

Without a polygraph from Mazza, Lamars soon-to-be ex wife, and Chambeau, Purity's parents, and etc.; I find it extremely difficult to make any kind of real detective work pay off.

I wonder if Purity, her sister, Mazza, Chambeau, soon-to-be ex wife, and etc. weren't all members of the Shovel's, who apparently traffic drugs, assumably money, and sex.

Could be that they had something on Lamar which made him "overlook" some of their activities. Perhaps like a mafia style control of this town and its people. Seems like no-one did too much to stop their activities, even knowing that some were illegal, such as the drugs.

Could be that Mazza wanted in on the cult/money and agreed to assist them if he was elected and therefore thought he would automatically be insured to win the election, or thought the election would be bought out, in light of the fact that perhaps Lamar refused to "overlook" certain things for the cult, or perhaps refused to be part of the "cults" activities anymore.

Just my two cents, but from what I know of the law, all of these people would have been asked for polygraphs, and none discounted as suspects as this case seems to travel far and wide throughout the country. This also makes me wonder why the FBI wasn't involved as it does seem to cross state boundaries and deal with drugs, money, and cults.

Karen

I just reviewed Sheriff Lamar's polygraph testing and I'm going to go with the following:

He seemed unresponsive or deceitful toward questions about his involvement/responsiblity for Macy's disappearance.
I think it was also interesting that he refused to answer questions about blackmail and Champeau (donated money to both candidates in election).

I think Lamar was somehow in financial debt and was told to throw the election in favour of Mazza. As ransom, Macy was kidnapped to ensure that Lamar was motivated enough to lose the election. This would explain Mazza's outrage that he lost the election because he knew of the plan and considered himself the winner before the election was even held. It could be a possiblity that the mall owner (Champeau) had something to do with it (besides owning the mall) and tried to cover his tracks by attempting to appear impartial and donating money to both electoral candidates. This may also explain why the psychic keeps visioning "coins dropping" when she calls about Macy for a couple of reasons. Either, it is symbolizing the debt(s) that Sheriff Lamar owed, OR he lost the money in a casino/card game/slot machine type of deal, and it is the actual money being gambled she is envisioning.
Anyway, if this is true, now that Lamar HAS won the election, despite someone holding Macy ransom to ensure he loses.. what do they do with Macy now?
Answer: We can either expect them to get infuriated and kill Macy, or the Sheriff may resign to give Mazza the position.

I think we need:
-bio and interview with Champeau
-bio, interview, polygraph with Mazza
-more info. on something I saw about a poker game with Lamar and Champeau.

If Sheriff Lamar needs your vote in the election Tuesday, November 11, How come the election is over? He needs a publicist who knows significant facts like when election day is--sure hope he picks other appointees better.

I don't know where "Pierce is off to next" (yes, it still says that), but I'd like to know if the tipline is going to be updated again.

Response:The tipline is late. The staffer in charge is under the weather. She'll be glad to know that you missed it.

Thanks for letting us know about the old header. Its gone now. Appreciated.

WHERE'S THE UPDATE?

Response:Its there. Press re-load or restart your web browser. The old files are stll in your cache.

Sherlock Holmes

Sirs:
I THOUGHT THESE POSTS WENT TO THE DETECTIVES ACTIVE ON THE CASE???? On Oct 30 I sent a post re: my theories about the possible involvement of FORMER detective Dave Anderson and why no response to the varous questions raised had been made. I specifically asked if the boy who gave Purity's note to that man had ever been given a chance to pick Anderson out of a lineup.

The response was something like this: "I did everything I could do to solve this case.......I was not involved."
WHAT IS GOING ON??!!!! WHY IS ANDERSON, WHO IS NO LONGER A MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT, and in my opinion, still a viable suspect in this case, handling and responding to these posts?????
Why doesn't the department respond DIRECTLY to the issues I have raised and answer the question. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING???
I PREDICTED THAT PIERCE WOULD BE KILLED BEFORE HE COULD BE THOROUGHLY INTERROGATED; THAT HE WOULD NEVER BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLICATE ANDERSON; THAT YOUR CASE COULDN'T BEAR THE LIGHT OF DAY BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY HOLES AND UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
It is only because Pierce was killed in Las Vegas in a shootout he instigated, that I am not crying conspiracy in his death. However, as I have alleged in my previous posts, I feel that Anderson and perhaps others from the sheriff's dept. were behind Pierce's escape.
Maybe the truth will come out after the election and a the new sheriff can clean house and clean the slate.

Respectfully and concerned,

S Holmes

Response:You caught us. We hired Anderson to help answer comments and manage areas of the site. He should not have answered in the first person. To answer your question re: Anderson and the boy. Yes, the boy had an opportunity to identify Anderson, but failed to.

Just a question or thought maybe.
Has anyone check with Macy's boyfriend(s)?
What about checking out the likly hood that her and her
mother maybe conspiring to foil the re-election of her
father.Just a thought.

Response:The boyfriend was interviewed. If Lamar's ex-wife took the girl to foil his re-election, perhaps she'll be returned no that the election is over.

I agree with an earlier theroy, i believe macy lamar,stepped outside for just a minute,know one exactly knows why.I also believe Ed Pierce and Anthony phelps done it.I believe Macy's dad (the sheriff) stagged the wreck so the two could escape,and get his daughter .The sheriff was behind in the polls,and he knew if he could solve this case,that would probaly get him re-election.

Response:Sheriff Lamar has had dozens of seperate incidents during his tenure(s) that could either win or lose this election for him. There is no evidence that he was involved in any way in his daughter1s kidnapping.

Response:I did my best to crack the case, and those who are closely involved know I had nothing to do with any aspect of the case except helping to solve it.
Signed
David Anderson
Former Detective

Response:There's no evidence that she was taken after they escaped. They were both banged up in the crash-in fact, Phelps died of his injuries. Victoria Symons continues to deny any involvement.

Response:If you are speaking of Victoria Symons, when you refer to Pierce's girlfriend, you must remember that she was questioned inLas Vegas and continues to deny everything. The roads to Nevada and back, and Oxford itself, have been canvassed constantly.

Response:The investigation concerning Victoria Symons and her relation to Edward Pierceis continuing at this time.

It looks like Macy's Library card was planted on
Tony's body to make it look like she was abducted by Pierce
and Ms. Symons. I would seriously look into the election
and everyone who is running against Mr. Lamar.

Response: Our update next week includes some additional election coverage. Chase McFadden, from the local paper has been helpful in supplying us with information about Lamar's political foe, prosecuting attorney Harold Mazza. A recent editorial appeared in the Eagle. It give some background.

DID I MISS SOMETHING WHAT THE HECK DOES HALLOWEEN ISSUE
MEAN? IS THAT THE EXTENT OF OUR WEEKLY UPDATE...BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE NEW THERE....

Response: We opted to supplant our usual heavy doses of information with some Halloween fun. Drop in next week for a regular update.

This case is going no where. Witnesses need to be re-interviewed and put through longer ones. Victoria is the only lead you have and I haven't seen a long interview with her posted yet.

Some of the old stuff needs to be deleted from the pages. I don't care about Pierces shootout. A good crime lab and hard eveidence needs to be secured. Where was Pierce staying with Victoria? Was the room searched.

The sheriff has some involvement somewhere. I think he is involved in something.

Victoria and the sheriff need to be interviewed. They are involved somehow together.

Response: The Sheriff's involvement will be examined in the next weeks. We also released a 3 part interview with Victoria Symons. View it here. Pierce's room was searched and a key was found to an empty storage locker. We agree its time to remove Pierce. Look for it this week.

Somewhere I read that Macy has another Aunt (can't remember which State). Has she been checked out yet? Like to get more details on her. Bio?

To the person below: Very interesting thought!

Krabbe30@aol.com

Response: She has an aunt, Jeannie Lynn Lamar Golden, you can read about her in Macy Lamar's bio or use the search engine to find more information.

My theory is as follows:
Victoria and Macy's father were infatuated with each other. The Sherrif's daughter is in his basement dead. Pierce and Phelps were just scapegoats. Macy found out about her father's extracurricular activites and her father had no choice but to strangle her with a peice of cable wire.

Response: Sheriff Lamar will get a close look over the next few weeks.

Macy seemed to be in the wrong place at the wrong time (the music store). I think she possibly recognized Pierce and this is what prompted him to abduct her. Unfornately i the the psychic was right on the mark when she said that Macy was dead, and i think Victoria knows alot more about it. I think something went on in New Orleans and Victoria defiently knew the people there. She needs to be questioned again about what went on there, and who they were with. Kaceybaby@aol.com

Response: Appreciated. Victoria recently gave a 3 part interview.

What about the election coming up in November? Maybe Macy's
disappearance had something to do with the election. And
that Mazza guy. And the Republican who's representing him.
They don't want Sherrif Lamar to win. Maybe they had something to do with it. I reccomend that you check it out.

Response: Agreed

I don't believe there is enough evidence to link Lamar to the crime - he is going west, as far west as he can get - let's face it there is money and family waiting for him - blood is thicker than water - or so they say - we need more clues and better facts to proceed

Response: More information coming each week. Anything you'd like in particular?

I think that the daughter was taken by the fugitives.
And also there using here as a insurance polcy in
case you guys show up at there front door.So be
careful and good luck finding her.

-DDaman14-
(Dan)
Response: Appreciated. No insurance involved.

It is possible that the girl was not kidnapped but ran away even thought she might not have any reason for with out the girl we don't know. Or she was abducted by other people or killed imediatley and hid away some where never to be found.

Response: Macy Lamar led a secluded and protected life. There are few places she could run. We are more concerned that she is dead, since no photos or contact has been made,

Okay, the evidence is inconclusive. There is hardly anything availlable to convict or even hold Victoria for Macy's kidnapping. All that is available is that Ed (who is dead now) was upset with Macy's father because he arrested him for the Purity Knight murder. The only thing that is on Victoria is that she phoned her mother and said something about a new girl. Now why, if she was referring to macy, would Ed be nice to Macy if he was trying to get revenge on Macy's father? Maybe Victoria killed Macy and that's why Ed became angry toward her and beat her. I mean now that Ed is dead, it is Vickys word and her word alone. The only way that anything is going to get solved is if some of these slummy people come out of the woodwork and try to clear Ed's name on things. I also agree that we need more clues and more facts!!!!!

Response: Victoria Symons will not be easily cleared. At the very leaset she aided escaped felons. In addition, no one is going to clear Ed Pierce's name. As for new information, what items do you require, in particular?

I think that Ed took Macy to get back at the sheriff for arresting him, but somewhere along the line, Macy escaped. The Ed killed his partner so he could get away faster. Unfortunatley Macy was following Ed and killed him at the hotel. Now Macy is somewhere in the south. macy is not dead though. She is completley alive.

Response: We hope to find her alive also. However, we do not expect to find that she is a killer.

I say we need the Sheriff Lamar to undertake his polygraph test A.S.A.P. We need those results, because now that Ed is dead without Macy, we need to focus more attention on other suspects (still not eliminating fact that Macy was, at one time, with Ed and Tony)
I agree with earlier statements regarding the local cult in Oxford at Cooter's Farm.. we need these people investigated!

Response: Lamar is taking a polygraph test on Wednesday, October, 29.

get with it people Ed is DEAD.
Read the updates.
This is what we in law enforcment like to refer to as a clue.

Response: Thanks.

I THINK HE (ED) WAS STALKING HER IN THE RESTERANT AND IF THEY WERE INTO DRUGS THEN MAYBE SHE OWED HIM MONEY OR MAYBE SHE HAD TREATENED TO TRUN HIM IN AND HE JUST MADE SURE SHE DID'NT HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THAT.

To Sherlock Holmes:

In the past I have disagreed with some of what you have put forth, but I must say that this time I think you may actually be on to something. Good Deduction...I'm impressed. I'll be even more so if you are right. Lee

Response: We appreciate his/her remarks also.

I think they are heading for San Fransico, CA.

what ever be the reason why she was taken is not as important as to where she is now! the man that isn't dead, i'm sorry i forgot his name, his father is in louisiana and has fired him when he was younger, this shows no reason to return to his home. Except that he is very familiar with the surroundings."a" his brother now lives in san.francisco and has provided him with money in the past. sure he probably knows what crimes he has committed however family will always be family."b" the girls history says she is a runner and a swimmer, more than likely if she tried to escape it was by running. her attackers probably couldn't keep up with her so they or he subdued her any way necessary, likely injuring her mildly to severely.with him running from authorities risking capture the likelihodd of disposing of her whether alive or dead is possible.unfortunately i agree with the wacko that she is in louisiana or texas, since he is probably on his way to san. fran. since living in lousiana he is familiar with texas,1 hour drive. as far as people seeing her in central east texas,chances of seeing a girl with similar characteristics from a distance will always say it was her. only my opinion. best places to look for her is area "a" and for him area "b". he is looking to blend in "california" fishtower

I think there is a link between MAcy's father and ed. I belive he may have tried to hush Ed up over something and was interupted by the appearance of his daughter who saw and heard everything. I think Macy is either hiding out with her new knowledge or being held by her father until after his election. Another angle that bears looking into is the possibility of the other candidate holding macy hostage to make her fathers polls go down as people get angry over crime and the lack of case solving. For example there are many cases of rape and two of the three rape victims do not know for sure if it was Anthony . This bears looking into. Neesa90210

Response: Connections to our upcoming elections are being examined. Expect more on this. Thank you.

I think that Vicky killed Macy in a jealous rage. I believe the psychic about where Macy is buried. But I don't think Macy was abducted. I think she might have gone willingly. She might have been attracted to Ed, and her boyfriend said she had been thinking about sex. I think she went willingly at first.

Response: The psychic, Madam Rayleen has offered to help. She calls our tipline almost daily.

you know when Roger Dale Stafford Lined up Several resturant workers at a Sirlion Stokade in Oklahoma in the seventys ( ask Okie about this case ) and Gunned them down exicution stlye in the meat freezer, Stafford's girl friend claimed that she had nothing to do with it. well of course
her chances of being released were about absolute ZERO!!!
So why in gods name are we acting like this Victoria is
about to walk away from this like the innocent little victim you guys have got to be kidding the prosicuters and the D.A.s would be scoring the law books for all sorts of charges ....and any police dept worth their salt would begathering evidence to bring victoria to trial.... she was riding around in a stolen car with more different kinds of blood in it than a slaughter house guys. she was if not in the middle of then certainly abetting fleeing felons involved in what the law will see as the murder of at least three law enforcment officer...with the shooting to kill of several more security officers..several counts of grand theft auto..conspiracy to distibute several controled substances....interstate transportation of stolen vehicles and goods.....the list goes on and on....does anybody realy think that even if she did turn Ed in the end that the interview with her would be conducted in the wishy washy, namby pamby way that it was conducted GIVE US A BREAK!

oh incedentaly Roger Dale stafford was Exicuted by lethal injection...and guess what his old lady never pulled a trigger and is still behind bars...
just somthing for you guys to think about...sort of a reality check from your readers>

Response: Thanks for the morality tale.

I personally think this is getting out of hand. The interrogations are incomplete, and short, and do not ask relevant questions. Many people, cults, churches, church attendees, etc. do not seem to have been questioned at all and if they were, we have not been told.

This started out as a good story, but, it is falling behind in theory, and consistancy.

At least give us some facts with which to base conclusions and keep our interest. I also would like to see some more interaction in this area. We post and post and do not get anything for it.

This is a cool site, but, I am losing interest as it seems way out of hand without details and responses.

Response: Sorry we haven't given you what you need. Why not submit a list of questions you'd like posed to Sheriff Lamar. He takes a polygraphg on Wed, Oct 29. With updates including up to 20 documents a week, we sure aren't slacking off. Let us know what info you need.

As for responses to the comments page. As of Monday, October 27, we have an assigned staffer handling the page.

HMMMMM much mystery grummbling ...the crimescene natives grow restlesss WE NEED HARD EVIDENCE DARN IT this is an online mystery Nnot Agathe freakin Christi
EVIDENCE

EVIDENCE

EVIDENCE

We want it and we want it now.
lets get down to some series investigation.
lets get down to some Hair and fiber
lets get down to some DNA testing
Lets run down some more Ego shovel members for interveiws
lets catalog the stolen vehicles and do extensive inventorys
of the contents

come on guys my grandmother knows more about detective work from watching the O.J.trial and hard copy than whoever did that lazy interveiw with Victoria

Ebola
Response: And you shall have it!

Come on, guys.. clean up the site. The index still reads "Where is Pierce off to next?". What are we supposed to be focusing on now?

What if Purity was killed by someone other than Pierce, and that other person is responsible for Macy's disappearance?

Would it be possible to find out when the last time the M. Lamar library card was used? It's really the only physical evidence linking Macy with the Pierce/Phelps/Symons gang. Maybe it got there through other means. Macy could have lost it months ago.

Response: Ooops. Caught us in a mistake. Sorry. The library card was last used Sept 6. She checked out a book of poetry by Dorothy Parker called Sunset Gun

Why have hair and fiber runs not been conducted on all recovered vehicles that Ed'd and victoria were known to have used in their cross country travels it would give us a more definitive picture of the cars occupants..this evidence should include the trunks...it is unclear from symons statment how many different vehicles were their between
LA and The shoot out in NV. a good hair and fiber tech would
be able to determine with a high level of certainty ( followed up by DNA tests ) that macy had been in the vehicle or vehicle's and the last vehicle that macys presents was detected in could well provide us with a new area of the country to begin our search Now that Ed is dead... also i agree with the questions asked by the Theorist that appears just after this message... that being why was Victoria not questioned about the evidence found in the hotel/phelps death scene that pionted to macy being with the ED,Victoria,
phelps, other?, party? WE need to get little Miss vicroria
back in an interview room For about twelve hours with a pair
of ( competent this time ) police investigators and sweat her little behind while she goes thue DT's.. COME ON GUYS LETS HAVE A REAL INTERIGATION for lords sakes its not like this is a stolen property case ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE DEAD HERE.
TELL HER IF SHE DOENT START COMING UP WITH ANSWERS FAST THAT BEING THE ONLY ONE LEFT THAT IF SEE CAN BE CONNECTED WITH ANY OF THE DEATHS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ALONG THE WAY (and there still may be a coupla bodys out there as yet unconected with this little cross country Romp)THAT AT BEST IT WILL BE LIFE..AT WORST WE COULD ASK THE STATE TO PUT A NEEDLE IN LITTLE OL VICTORIAS ARM..ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME TILL THE EVIDENCE COMES UP...SO VICKY YOU NEED TO ROLL NOW BECAUSE YOUR NOT SAVING ANYBODY, EDS DEAD VICTORIA ITS TIME TO COME TO JESUS AND SAVE YOUR SELF FROM BEING AN OLD WOMAN WHEN YOU SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN, OR IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE YOUR PROTECTING VICTORIA????

Hey, thanks for the updates, Victoria's statement shed some light on a few things. Some questions:

1) Do you believe that they never had Macy?

2) Did you ask her to explain the articles of Macy's that you found in the Hotel room when Phelps was found?

3) Are you starting to believe the Madame now? Pretty startling prediction last Friday on the tipline, huh?!?
I really like the tipline, and also the chat summaries, but those are two weeks behind. Keep up the good work!
B
Response: Thanks for the kind words. So may people don't go to chat, that the goings on there seemed wasted. We're glad we archived them too. As for the startling tipline prediction, I assume you refer to last week's tipline with Madam Rayleen. I usually discount them because they are all outrageous.

This is starting to S@$K whats the use of posting theorys here if none of them are ever examined or commented on....Not only that but the Victoria interview by the investigator in Las Vegas is so incompleate as to boggle the
mind..where are the questions about the Stolen cars, gas
stops. details of the stay in Los Crusais NM with ( the carsons? ) details of the kinds of drugs Ed and Victoria were doing and where they were getting/selling them.
this is the follow up to a shoot out that would have recieved national news exposure CNN,NBC Dateline,Hard Copy,
and this is all the interview we get... COME ON THIS IS PATHETIC GUYS ..YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS...It would be nice if you would run chat about this case somewhere else besides AOL ..FOR those of us that have as little to do with AOL as possible....QUESTION (so obvoius that it blows my mind that the investigators did not ask it) Did victoria ever have an occasion to see in the trunk of the car before they arrived in New Orleans? Could Macy have been in the trunk ( and survived ? ) until Ed's party reached New Orleans ( Drugged In the Trunk?) and could Ed have sold macy
to pimps there. THIS WILL FOREVER BE NOW KNOWN AS EBOLAS WHITE SLAVERY THEORY. could this acount for the sudden money
that ED came up with in New Orleans...remember that Ed's friends in N.O. wanted Ed to turn Victoria out onto the street. are there any N.O.P.D reports of armed robberys in N.O. in the time frame that Ed came up with the N.O. money that match the description of Ed,..Homicides commited against Known drug or gang members?, Drug rip offs Or out of nowhere theft murders where the motive appeared to be robbery. reported muggings where the suspect bore resemblance to Ed.....you see the point is that money had to come from somewhere because i doubt that Ed's Drug dealer/pimp freinds just gave it to him out of the goodness and gratitude they held in their hearts.

EBOLA

Response: Perhaps we can do a follow up with Victoria. It seems that there are many questions for her

guess wat it was me all along i did it i am the brains behind this opperation

it could just be a quencidence that her missing and pierce ,phelps dissapeared or maybe not maybe she helped them escape and she was phelps girlfriend and pierce made amove on her and phelps killed her
thanks for listening
BAMBAM7956@AOL.COM

it could just be a quencidence that her missing and pierce ,phelps dissapeared or maybe not maybe she helped them escape and she was phelps girlfriend and pierce made amove on her and phelps killed her
thanks for listening
BAMBAM7956@AOL.COM

Ok, I have a bit more..
How was the Ego Shovel cult discounted as a "suspect" for Purity's murder?

ALSO: Has anyone checked out the link to Ego Shovel site? I found some interesting things there, and would really like to start investigating members more in depth.
A band called the Kudzu Kings has a song called "Rototiller" with some interesting lyrics that go similar to
Went to the town hall
Then went to the shopping mall
Then I rototilled the trees
At the university that still stands
Their song, "I Love Beer" had some interesting lyrics as well.. this is worth checking out...
Let's look for a box with macy in it under the trees at the university

I couldn't access this past weeks copy of the chat summaries.. I was told that the page couldn't be found!?

Well, Victoria claims that they never had Macy with them.
It sounds to me as if Macy's disappearance may be strongly linked to the Ego Shovel cult.
I think it was a member of the cult that was responsible for the death of Purity.
Victoria mentioned in her interviews about the practice of the cult members leaving women tied naked in the woods, left to satisfy the sexual appetites of the men. This sounds really fishy... I recall Ed once writing in his journals that "Rory" raped Purity one night.. he must have been referring to one of these outdoors-cult encounters.
Something similar may have transpired with Macy. Forget Ed Pierce for now, he's dead anyway, and we have Victoria (except maybe for a followup on the couple that Ed knew at a stop in Texas).
Anyway, let's focus on the Ego Shovel cult, and I'm sure we'll find someone called or nicknamed "Rory" there.

Whew... ok, things are a little frustrating. We need some responses to some of these theories posted, and some action taken on some of the ideas presented here. Otherwise, our involvement is pretty much futile.

First of all, Victoria was quick in turning Ed in....is she getting control and the upper hand in the kidnapping of Macy? On the other end, could Macy's father be trying to salvage his career by winning the sympathy vote. The lacking of good security allowed two criminals to escape...shall we say "cover your ass" syndrome? Pretty sick, but then again this is the 90's.

Macy stepped outside and was snagged by the two goons she tried to escape but she couldn't... The convicts would carry her off, kill her, dispose of the body and be done.. Wrong, they couldn't get away with it... So it was a joint plan between the two convicts...

Why even say that breaking news would be updated on Monday afternoon if, indeed, this was not going to be done. Very frustrating.

Hello? It's like, pretty far past Monday afternoon. You've got to get some consistency going here..

FORMER SHERIFFS DETECTIVES ANDERSON AND
ARMSTRONG ARE BEHIND THE ESCAPE OF PIERCE

AND PHELPS, AND THE DISAPPEARANCE OF MACY
LAMAR !!!!

Anderson and Armstrong , who both "retired" {or were FORCED to resign !!?} after the arrest of Pierce in the Purity Knight investigation, would both have the necessary knowledge and inside contacts to pull off the planned escape of the two suspects. THEY would know the department was short staffed as a result of the football game so that there would be no second vehicle escorting the van . THEY could easily have heard of the scheduled transfer, and THEY would know the route taken and the perfect place to cause the accident. If they were there and helped cause the accident that could explain how the two suspects so quickly freed themselves and escaped the area before any of the witnesses [who showed up almost immediately] could observe them.
From the evidence in the Purity Knight murder it is obvious that Ed Pierce did not act alone. There was also strong evidece incriminating Dave Anderson:- -- no alibi, a previous relationship which he innitially tried to cover up,
and of course PURITY'S NOTE TO "DAVE". Even if Anderson was not involved in Puritys disappearance and/or murder there is much evidence indicating that one or more other individuals were involved. Pierce had a verified alibi for the orignal time of Purity's disappearance. The coroner felt the cigarette burns indicated a left-handed suspect,but
none of the prime suspects are left-handed. Another possible explanation is that while one person held her down by sitting on her legs and holding her arms, a second right-handed person kneeling at her head could have caused the same burnmarks. Pierce had a beard or goatee, but the suspect seen talking to the boy and who took the "Dave" note only to stash it in the library book, was described as having no facial hair. Purity WAS involved with the Ego Shovel cult and perhaps Ed snatched her away from the cult AFTER her disappearance. The investigation DID show that Purity was "staying " at Cooters Farm around this time. In fact, what if he told Purity that Dave Anderson had "sent him in to rescue her from the cult." That sounds just like something Ed's mind would come up with.
It is possible Anderson was not involved in that horrible crime, but he WAS GUILTY of trying to cover up his involvement with Purity, possibly guilty of obstructing justice
especially if his relationship was deeper [i.e.-of a sexual nature] than he has claimed. What if HE was the lover that Pierce heard in Puritys bedroom just shortly before she disappeared. Pierce was just then fantasizing that he had some type of rapor with Purity -- drugs, music, ego cult [and sex?] and then he "catches" her with a lawman?? Could this be one of the factors that put Ed "over the edge" and caused him to act when he did. If Anderson is innocent, it
IS POSSIBLE that Pierce forced Purity to write the "Dave"
note and later planted it in the library. It may have not been the same note that the boy turned over to the suspect, maybe Purity did write a note crying for help- even naming her captor, but Pierce slyly swapped notes and planted it where he knew [from this website] the authorities were looking !!! Likewise, if Anderson was NOT "involved" with Purity Ed would have learned of from the case because of his prior relationship and decided to try to implicate him with the note.

HOWEVER, even if you assume Anderson is innocent in the Knight crime, there is still a case for motive as well as opportunity in the escape of the suspects AND Macys disappearance.
IT IS ALMOST INCONCEIVABLE that after removing an investigator from a case because he WITHHELD information about his contacts and possible involvement with the victim , the lead investigator - Armstrong, would then turn around and have that same investigator tailing his "prime" suspect.The whole incident of Pierce's arrest when
Anderson was shot "stinks". Remember, not only had Anderson been removed from the case but the departments
information officer in describing the incident stated Anderson was "off-duty" at the time of the shooting. Sherrifs departments do not send "off-duty" officers to meet an armed suspect who has sent him a note saying bring your gun. Don't they have overtime? backup?
IF IT WAS A SET-UP by Anderson where Pierce was sussposed to be killed, then Armstong was either involved too, or he subsequently tried to cover Anderson's ass by claiming he had authorized the operation- both the surveillance and the meeting.
IN EITHER CASE, I feel that Sherrif Lamar was pissed off at their handling of the case and, feeling the pressure of the election, forced both men to resign. Possibly so he could steal their thunder and claim credit for the solving of the case, but more importantly i believe, because he feared
Anderson was in fact involved in the crime and feared that would come out before the election.
HAVING BEEN FORCED TO RESIGN ANDERSON AND ARMSTRONG WERE OUT TO "GET" SHERRIF LAMARR. So they arranged the escape of the suspects, causing the accident and securing their getaway. They later dropped the the suspects off at the mall where they stole their getaway car. NOW THE EVIL TWIST OF FATE.
Having it in for Lamarr they {ANDERSON + ARMSRONG} happened to see poor Macy at the exit of the mall and they grabbed their opporunity. They told Macy of the escape of the suspects and claimed her father had asked them to pick her up for safety's sake. She went with them willingly.
They then placed her empty wallet and the cd bag in the waste barrell knowing that when it was found and with the escapees having stolen a car there that Phelps and Pierce would be blamed. They also manged to slip Macy's library card into Phelp's belongings before the left.
Having been forced to resign they are determined to get Lamarr, and prevent his reelection. If Anderson IS guilty in the Knight case- as MANY OTHERS have asserted, it makes sense he would strike again. He seems to like very young girls and could not pass up the opportunity to snatch another and blame Pierce again.

Sherlock Holmes

it was an unknown suspect
he/she used the escape of Ed Pierce as a cover
who didn't like the girl??

Macy went outside the mall for a breath of fresh air, and to make a call at a payphone outside. Ed and Anthony were watching her, deciding that since they both just escaped from prison, they needed some money. They preceeded to rob Macy, but stopped her from screaming or hitting them by hitting her on the head, and she slumped down unconsious. They took off with all her stuff, but dumped everything in the trash that they didn't think was important. (which was the empty purse and CD bag) Tony kept all her cards and put them in his pockets, later putting them in the trash too, cept for the library card because he didn't really search his pockets.When Macy came to, she couldn't recall a thing. When they had hit her, she had gotten amnesia. So she just wandered off, and hitch hiked her way to (insert state here). When there she wandered her way into a hospital, and when asked her name they figured out she had amnesia and is now in the pyceatric ward of (insert choice of name here) hospital. Bye, bye Macy! Have a nice new life!

Here's a hint. Try Ivy. The guy obviously hates the sheriff and wants his candidate (Mazza I think his name was)
to win the elections next year. So kidnapping the sherrif's daughter would put the sheriff in the dog house and Mazza in
the clear as the next sheriff.

Ok so my Austin Theory was wrong..bummer.. but now the question is where is the white van? will examination of the van reveal that Ed needed the cargo capacity for some reason? lets face it if we find wood scraps and shovels Eds
been digging again...he did it once and he'll do it again.
lets hope that victoria doesnt immediatly ask for a lawyer
and can be interogated at some length if not directly asked
macy's location then more as to route, stops and times between san Antonio and Las Vegas

I feel as though they are looking in the wrong direction. I personaly think it just so happened that the convicts escaped from jail the same day Mercy came up missing. Kids dissapear everyday from shopping malls all over the united states, the only reason this one is different is because her daddy is a cop and has conections. She probably went with someone she knew and he/ she didn't plan on bringing her back. Reality check: how easy would it be to take a girl out of the mall kicking and screaming?

i think that the girl was kidnapped. probably by someone she knew.otherwise she wouldn't of gone. ok here is what i think happened:

she went to the store. she was looking at a pair of shoes.she ssaw one of her friends or someoneshe knew.he asked if she would go with out to lunch or something.she said"no i can't i have to meet my mom in an hour." he says" i'm just talking about a piece of pizza!" she says o.k. just as long as it is a piece of pizza" they get into his car he starts driving she says this is the wrong way!!!he says were taking a short cut he goes to deserted field were he knows no one can see them.and he rapes and kills herand buries under the nearest tree clans up his messand is one his way!! the reason i think it was someone she knows is because she wouldn't of gone willingly if it was someone she didn't know and that would of made a big comosion which no killer wants!!because every one would know who it is. THANK YOU for reading this s.a.b.54!!!!!!!!

I think that the two inmates planed the escape, kidnapped the sheriff's daughter to get back at the sheriff, and will be leaving the country soon from Florida.


Travis Pennell

How did the Policeman's blood get into the stolen car?

"This music in my head" and "Bright penny, lights .. knife"

The weird poetry from Pierce on the answering machine,
is "bright penny, lights" a reference to being some sort
of worthless star, and going to Las Vegas? Who does he
know in Nevada? He craves the attention, I believe that's
what the radio station call was all about, and also a show
of "power" to "Geena", the girl he mentioned in the call.
Is Geena really "Vicki", her phone call to her mother
suggests she no longer thinks of herself as Vicki ("No,
no Vicki").

my theory is you are looking in the wrong
direction.
one of the girls has an abc card so i would
be looking where they could leave the country
on a boat.
i believe you'll find the missing girl in south
florida somewhere.
that's where they'll leave the country from.

I THINK THAT SHE PROBABLY FELL IN LOVE WITH PIERCE AND MAYBE RAN AWAY WITH HIM. WHO KNOW MAYBE HER FATHER JUST SAID SHE WAS KIDNAPPED SO THAT SHE WOULD COME BACK.

i think that victoria was having an affair with the sheriff so that she could get close to him. that way she could get info to help her plan ed's escape. once she organized the escape she and ed were free and clear to go to california to persue her acting career, but macy found out about the affair before she had finished planning. i think it was purely coincidence that macy was at the mall when ed and tony were stealing that car but i think that ed and victoria saw a window of opportunity and a chance to get back at the sheriff when they saw her there. since macy already knew that victoria was seeing her father, it was probably very easy for victoria and ed to convice macy to leave with them( not to mention macy saw it as a way to get back at her parents for divorcing).i think that they are headed west because victoria believes she is going to be a big star. i also think that some kind of spark has united between macy and ed along their little trek and they may have something sexual going on. i even think that macy may have assumed an alias---geena, and that is who ed dedicated the song to. ed seemed a little secretive and apprehensive when he called the radio station. there also seemed to be some tention in victoria's call to her mother and i think that macy's presence on the trip is the foundation of that tension. i think we can look toward the possibility that one of those girls will end up dead before they reach their destination. i can't wait to see what happens.----lfd813

I think the sherrif killed the two prisoners,then killed his daughter,and the reward was just a cover up.

i think that victoria was having an affair with the sheriff so that she could get close to him. that way she could get info to help her plan ed's escape. once she organized the escape she and ed were free and clear to go to california to persue her acting career, but macy found out about the affair before she had finished planning. i think it was purely coincidence that macy was at the mall when ed and tony were stealing that car but i think that ed and victoria saw a window of opportunity and a chance to get back at the sheriff when they saw her there. since macy already knew that victoria was seeing her father, it was probably very easy for victoria and ed to convice macy to leave with them( not to mention macy saw it as a way to get back at her parents for divorcing).i think that they are headed west because victoria believes she is going to be a big star. i also think that some kind of spark has united between macy and ed along their little trek and they may have something sexual going on. i even think that macy may have assumed an alias---geena, and that is who ed dedicated the song to. ed seemed a little secretive and apprehensive when he called the radio station. there also seemed to be some tention in victoria's call to her mother and i think that macy's presence on the trip is the foundation of that tension. i think we can look toward the possibility that one of those girls will end up dead before they reach their destination. i can't wait to see what happens.----lfd813

every one hates a cop kill them all

i personally fell like she ran away from home. it was a freak accident that the two guys escaped from jail on the same day . she was a spoiled brat and by her dad having an affair it was just a good excuse to be able to run off with her out of own boyfriend

I think that the two people that escaped from jail are try to get the shiffef so thay get his dughtor and use her to get him if his wife goes there thay might get her too.

It was Professor Plum in the billiards room with the revolver!
*KEVIN*

I am certainly not in the same frame of mind as Ed Pierce
however if I was in the same situation as this sick
individual, I would almost surly try to flee the country.
I understand that he may have been spotted in Texas which
is were I am from. This may tend to support my theory.
I would keep a sharp eye on the south Texas area and most
certainly the border to Mexico. Thanks for giving me the
opportunity to tell you my ideas

I think Pierce & Phelps did it

I do believe that they are headed toward Denton, TX however I do not believe that they will try to contact his parents directly. However I do think that they will be looking for help from people in the Dallas/Denton/Ft. Worth area underground. This is his home territory and where he feels very comfortable. Deep Ellum in Dallas is the area in which I would be looking at, also the underground rock/alternative music movements at the University of North Texas. These 2 areas I do believe are going to be his pipeline out of the area to somewhere where he will be protected. I also believe that when his use of the 2 women with him is over, he will murder them and ditch their bodies in a location where, unless it is a true accident, they will never be found.

I believe they are on their way to Sanfrancisco.

it seems like almost to much of a coincidence that on
the tip line there is a sighting of Ed in San Antonio that
was disregarded just a couple of days before the carjacking
of the van. the initial tip was disregarded because it
placed phelps ( already deceased ) with the party.
this raises the possibility of a unknown male traveling
with Ed , Macy , and victoria.
could this unknown male be Victoria's relative the chop
shop/car theft suspect? it would explain a lot. like the
attempt the destroy the VIN number on the stolen car taken
at the shopping center where Macy dissapeared. also neither
Ed or Phelps had a history of car theft but the stearing wheel was broken down and no windows were broken out of the
car ( keys left in it? ) could victoria's relative and victoria have engineered the sherriffs van crash that led to
Ed and Phelps escape?

She really wasnt abducted..This was part of the plan.
She helped Them escape and is with them commiting crimes.

Ed May be in the Austin texas area, hiding out in the
austin/University of Texas alternative music bar scene.
this would also enable him to possibly contact other young
collage based Ego Shovel members who might buy drugs from
Ed or privide him with shelter and assistance. Austin lies directly between san Antonio and the Dallas Fort Worth
metroplex which includes denton the home of Ed's parents
connected by interstate I-35 one of the most highly traveled interstates in the united states providing anonimity on the
road due to the sheer volume traffic making it unlikly that he would be stoped say in a hywaypatrol drug interdiction
stop. one question that stikes me is why would ed steal a
van when a passenger car would hav been much more anonymous,
does Ed need the cargo capacity for some reason? is Ed transporting anouther underground chamber.

out for his next kill..he going to orange co. VA...
because he wants to stay close to the southern floks

Just out of curiousity, has anyone bothered to try to find out from his parents what it is that he thinks they have done to him that would make him want them dead?

Where is the sheriff's polygraph? (to prove he had nothing to do with his daughters kidnapping)

Does the sheriff have life insurance on his daughter?

The phone call to his parents sounds as if he is loaded, (stoned/drunk) and on a revenge mission, where is he getting money from to survive?

Hi I'm from California, and I only have one suggestion at this time, reading the phone call transcript from Ed Pierce to his parents, I believe he is heading for Las Vegas you can expect some prostitutes to be murdered there, or another girl abducted.Possibly killed.

My therory-
I think Vicky is the "affiar" Macy had told Sharon about.. Vicky kidnapped Macy becuase the Sheriff wanted to end the affair when Macy confronted him about it... Vicky was enraged . She had the opportunity and the motive to take Macy.
The notes in the desck might hold the clue.
Vicky I feel is back in Miss. with Macy. I also believe she has tried to contact the Sheriff but he isn't telling anyone, due to he is already having problems within the polls and he would have to explain why he lied in his interview about seeing someone. Vicky needs money to go to California to be a movie star, what better way to get such an amount besides robbing a bank??
*FLTracy*

I feel that Ed Pierce is heading to Mexico!!

I feel that Ed Pierce is heading to Mexico!!

I think Pierce and her boyfriend got together and killed her while her parents where trying to look for her. Or her boyfriend hired Pierce to kill her and they are trying to blame her parents for her murder.

Where do his parents live?

Where do his parents live?

my thought is that since pierce blames his parents for his actions and thoughts i do think that the police in his parents home town should set up a trap or even watch his parents closely because i really think that his is after his parents.
I would also like to say that i think that macy is alive and well and helping pierce out!

wHO WAS GUILTY???AND THE GIRL WAS TO BE FOUND DEAD.DID HERE BOYFRIEN KILL HER??

Pierce probably is headed to NYC figuring there are so many people he wont be found. I live in NYC and know there are so many criminals from all over vacationing here. While they are here they enjoy the many crime opportunities we have to offer. He may just be here now.

i believe Pierce may be headed to Dallas because this is where his parents are

Pierce stole a van in Texas, and his parents are alos in Texas. According to the answering machine message to his parents he blames them for everything. Not that they are at fault, but he talks of wanting to put a knife into them. Pierce could be on his way to his parents to kill them.

I think the sheriff is using the escape of Pierce to cover his tracks. I think the sheriff kidnapped his own daughter to gain symphathy and win the upcoming election. He knows he is no longer popular and is desperate to gain it back. I think Vicky is in love with Pierce and hooked up with him, because she can not be with out him. I think we will find them and both will be arrested. I do not think they are related to the disappearance of the sheriff's daughter. I think the sheriff may need an alibi as to where he was when his daughter was abducted.

Sure enough, after the van theft, Ed Pierce is making his way across Texas. Again, I'd like to have surveillance teams at both of his parents' homes in Texas (he seemed to exhibit resentment toward both from his phone message).
Continued patrols of major and minor routes along marked out map points seems to be the best way to find Pierce right now.
FBI agent inidicated videotape and locations of cash withdrawals from ATM machines.. ones from New Orleans won't do much good to locate them now, but may provide assistance on where they've been, or who they've seen.
It's interesting Sharon Atherton mentioned Sherriff Lamar's possible affair with one of his campaign members. Is there a magnolia tree at "Horn Lake" by any chance.
What is the significance of Macy's baby picture, and Victoria Symons' ABC card?
The psychic mentions, what I think, is a phone call being placed from a restaurant in New York. This may be the brother (I think of Pierce) attempting contact.

It's been bothering me that we have been unable to figure out where Pierce is heading. It appears as if he is a man with a mission. I have been unable to locate interviews with his ex-girlfriend Lee, his parents or his brother. If Ed is as masterful a theater artist as his biography would appear, he could easily get lost in NYC...especially is he had his brother's assistance. With his brother's contacts in AT&T;, almost anything is possible. Has anyone attempted to contact his brother?

Also, Ed may be trying to make it to Panama. He probably has many contacts still in place from his previous "tour of duty" there. Inasmuch as he is bilingual and is presumably knowledgeable of the county, perhaps we should be watching out for a potential attempt to flee the country.
On the other hand, would Lee help him out? Does Lee have either the resources or the money to give him? Is Lee sufficiently "freaked out" over the Purity murder that she would do whatever was necessary to help Pierce so she won't end up in a box like Purity?

I know the above poses for questions then answers but I hope it directs some attention to areas not yet thoroughly explored.

Thanx,

Redd

Well, it certainly SEEMS like Pierce is off to confront his parents. Or it could be a ruse.

He carjacked the van alone. Could he be going completely on his own now, Symons and Macy either dead or abandoned somewhere, together or alone?

Why haven't his parents been interviewed? Do they know who Geena or Rory might be?