Friday, January 27, 2010 - 2:30 p.m.
The witness, Jordan Rodale, was the victim's brother.
Sheriff's Detectives Sam Murphy and Ted Armstrong interviewed Mr.
Rodale at his residence, 910 Old Taylor Road, Oxford, Mississippi. This
is the second interview conducted with the witness.
Detective Sam Murphy
Detective Ted Armstrong
Detective Sam Murphy: Thank you for meeting with us again. I
repetitive, but for the record, could you please state your name and
Jordan Rodale: My name is Jordan Lucius Rodale and I reside at
Old Taylor Road in Oxford, Mississippi. I'm not sure why we are talking
again. I told you everything that might be helpful when we first met.
Detective Sam Murphy: We often do follow up interviews.
Detective Ted Armstrong: Mr. Rodale, do you know how you stand
Jordan Rodale: Do you mean, how much am I going to get? I
have no idea. On the one hand, I'm Devlin's only remaining relative. So
it's possible that I would gain a fair amount of assets. On the other
hand, my brother and I were never close, so it wouldn't surprise me at
all if he left everything to some softball player or something.
Detective Ted Armstrong: Just for the sake of argument, let's
get anything from your brother's will. What would your reaction be?
Jordan Rodale: I shouldn't be surprised. I was completely cut
of my mother's will. And he and Mom were always conspiring against me.
So he might have very well continued her tradition of keeping things
from me. Denying me.
Detective Sam Murphy: What would you do? You sued for
portions of your
mother's estate. Would you attempt to gain control of some of your
Jordan Rodale: I really can't say. It's hard to talk about
hypothetically. It depends on the spirit of the situation. It's not so
much the amount he left me or didn't leave me. It's about the tone.
Whether he was being malicious or attacking.
Detective Sam Murphy: If you could have any one item of
what would it be?
Jordan Rodale: Come on now, that's ridiculous. It's not like I
walking around saying "Well, if Devlin were murdered, I could have that
dining room table" or anything.
Detective Ted Armstrong: We understand that your mother's
journals were a
source of irritation for you. Is it possible that would be the item you
picked from your brother's estate? If you could only have one thing?
Jordan Rodale: Well, he and I had argued about them. As I told
in our first meeting, it was just one of many disagreements. Over and
Detective Ted Armstrong: Right. Well, could you tell us what
Jordan Rodale: My literary project?
Detective Ted Armstrong: Yes, that's right. You're a writer,
are you writing?
Jordan Rodale: I'm not sure how to describe it. It's basically
memoir. A lot of it is about growing up homosexual in a small southern
town. A lot is about my family. A lot is about life.
Detective Ted Armstrong: I'm not much up on literary stuff
myself, so maybe
don't know what I'm talking about. But, it seems to me that "a lot is
about life" is pretty vague. Could you be more specific?
Jordan Rodale: I'm not finished with the book, you see. So if
vague, it's because it's not like it's a finished product we're
discussing. However, I'm talking about growing up, always feeling the
stares and hearing the whispers from everyone. It wasn't easy, I can
Detective Sam Murphy: I'm sure it wasn't. We've heard
rumors about you
discussing the death of your mother's first husband in the book. Is
Jordan Rodale: Well, I'm not really finished. As I said, it's
very much in progress. But, yes, there is a possibility that I may
handle that topic. I don't believe a writer should hold back. So, maybe
that's in there.
Detective Sam Murphy: If I understand it correctly, they
what happened to that man, Frederick Beauchamp. Do you have any ideas?
Jordan Rodale: There are old rumors, of course. Some say he
himself, others say that he was killed. Most people just believe that
it was a simple car wreck.
Detective Sam Murphy: But, you don't have any particular
Jordan Rodale: I don't have any inside information or detail.
Detective Ted Armstrong: So, how were you going to treat this
you don't know anything.
Jordan Rodale: That's the whole point. I describe my process
Detective Ted Armstrong: Would your mother's journals help you
in this book
Jordan Rodale: I'm sure they could probably provide some small
details and bits of information.
Detective Ted Armstrong: Small details, huh? How important
mother's journals be to this project?
Jordan Rodale: I don't know. Since I haven't finished it. I
know what percentage is going to be about my family and what percentage
is going to be about me. I just don't know.
Detective Ted Armstrong: Like I said, I don't know much about
you'll have to cut me some slack. But, how's this thing work here? You
write the book and then some company buys it? Or do they buy it and
then you write it?
Jordan Rodale: It works both ways in the industry. But, in
case, my publisher has already bought the book. As long as I provide a
worthy manuscript within the allotted amount of time, they will publish
Detective Sam Murphy: And they've already paid for it?
Jordan Rodale: They gave me an advance against future
Detective Ted Armstrong: How much exactly was this advance?
Jordan Rodale: I'm not sure I should go into those details.
Detective Ted Armstrong:It's not like we're the check-out girl
down to the
Kroger, Mr. Rodale. We deal with personal information all the time in
our business. Besides, you didn't seem to think it was too personal
when the papers were running all the articles about the deal you had
signed. You were smiling pretty big in those pictures.
Jordan Rodale: Oh, well, that's common you see. I don't really
all that attention. But, they do that. For the publicity. I'm much more
private. Yes. But, my agent and editors make me do that promotion stuff.
Detective Sam Murphy: Yes, I'm sure it's difficult for
you. But, back to
the question, how much was the advance?
Jordan Rodale: I really can't tell you because so much of it
to the lawyers, agents, and taxes. The total advance was for about
300,000 dollars. I'm honestly not exactly sure how much I personally
Detective Ted Armstrong: That's quite a bit of money.
Jordan Rodale: Yes, advances have come down quite a bit since
early nineties when every first-time novelist was getting seven or
eight hundred thousand. But, I've written several successful books, so
I'm a known quantity. Also, memoirs are very popular right now. So all
of that probably contributed to the advance amount.
Detective Sam Murphy: Could you describe your financial
situation to us?
Jordan Rodale: What do you mean?
Detective Sam Murphy: Well, you just got a large sum of money
couple of years. So, I assume you're pretty affluent.
Jordan Rodale: Yes. Well, it's all a matter of perspective. I,
don't know that I'm rich. But, I guess I have been blessed. Yes. But,
one can never have enough money, right? It just never seems to be
Detective Ted Armstrong: But, you probably spend a lot too,
don't you? I
mean, that architect boyfriend runs in some pretty ritzy company. It
probably costs you a lot to keep up, I would think.
Jordan Rodale: We do like to enjoy life. What's the point of
money if you don't spend it? No harm in that, I can assure you.
Detective Ted Armstrong: But, you wouldn't describe your
spending as out of
control. You're financially okay? No worries?
Jordan Rodale: Of course, I have worries. Who doesn't? But,
living on the streets, digging through garbage cans.
Detective Ted Armstrong: You had to repay an advance once,
Jordan Rodale: Yes, unfortunately, a publisher and I didn't
eye-to-eye on a project and I had to repay the advance.
Detective Sam Murphy: That must have been very
Jordan Rodale:Yes. Financially and emotionally.
Detective Ted Armstrong: What if you have to repay the 300,000
Jordan Rodale: I can assure you, that won't happen.
Detective Ted Armstrong: But, if you did, let's just say.
Could you? You
haven't spent it all, have you?
Jordan Rodale: I already told you that I was fine.
Detective Ted Armstrong: So, I'm just playing around with
things here. Just
talking off the top of my head, but let's say you weren't in good shape
financially. It seems to me that you could either really use your
brother's money, or you could really use those journals. Either way,
you get out of the hole. I'm just talking hypothetically.
Jordan Rodale: Yes, I guess you're right. But that has nothing
do with the situation. I cannot tell you any more than I already have.
I am fine financially!
Detective Ted Armstrong: So, last summer, when Neilson's had
to file court
proceedings against you to get you to pay your account, what was that?
Jordan Rodale: Well, that was an administrative error. Yes. It
simply got overlooked. An oversight. My assistant lost the bills.
Detective Sam Murphy: Is this the same assistant who
"lost" our messages
when we were trying to contact you? Seems to me this guy isn't working
out too well.
Jordan Rodale: He is fine. It was just a mistake. I'm probably
one who misplaced the paperwork.
Detective Ted Armstrong: So money is not a problem?
Jordan Rodale: For the last time, no!
Detective Sam Murphy: Okay, okay. I think that's all we
need for now,
Rodale. We'll be in touch if we have any more questions. Thanks for
Interview ends 3:00 p.m.