Saturday, February 6, 2010, 1:28 p.m.
The witness, David Garcia, was the lead detective for the
Glendale, California Police Department in the investigation of the 2002
murder of Ivan Riesling. Sheriff's Detective Sam Murphy interviewed
Det. Garcia by phone
Detective Sam Murphy
Detective David Garcia, Glendale CA
Detective Murphy: Thanks for taking the time, Detective Garcia.
Detective David Garcia: Sure. I'll be glad to help.
Detective Murphy: What ever happened to the
investigation of the
murder of Ivan Riesling in 2002?
Detective David Garcia: Nothing. It was never solved. I guess
it's still my case, although it's been considered cold since late '02.
Detective Murphy: Why weren't you guys able to solve it?
Detective David Garcia: It was weird. I got there and
thinking, this is simple burglary gone bad. The back door is busted in,
the den is a wreck, and the victim is dead in his shorts. Seemed like
he woke up one night, heard somebody downstairs, confronted them, and
got bashed in the head.
Detective Murphy: Let me interrupt you - the murder
weapon was a poker
from the fireplace, right?
Detective David Garcia: Yeah. It was just thrown over in a
corner. No prints
on it. We figured the perp was wearing gloves, but the victim's blood
was all over it. So anyway, I'm thinking this is a break-in. But as far
as anyone can tell, nothing was stolen. I initially figured that the
perp must have just freaked out over killing someone and dashed out,
without thinking to actually steal anything. But, who knows what these
Detective Murphy: So what made you think that it might
not have been a
Detective David Garcia: I can't really give you any
specifics, there was
just this general sense that there was more to it. Then, when we
started checking into Riesling's personal life, it was pretty messy. So
that created more theories.
Detective Murphy: Like what?
Detective David Garcia: Well, this guy Riesling seemed
to be a real smooth
guy. Handsome, like a movie star. Had a pretty good job as an editor
with a magazine. Those guys don't usually make a tremendous amount of
money until they really hit the big time, but it seemed like a
glamorous job anyway. But when we started looking, there was really a
mess. He had this girlfriend and by all accounts, they fought like
hell. This girl became a real regular at the hospital emergency room.
But there was never any solid evidence that Riesling was doing it. And
she defended him every step of the way. And then, Riesling started
sleeping around. We found more floozies than you can imagine that this
guy was seeing. I don't know how he had time for them all.
Detective Murphy: What about this girlfriend?
Detective David Garcia: Name was Natalie Posner. Her
life story was pretty
messy itself. Came from a broken home, tough circumstances, bounced
around. The usual hard luck story. Scored a scholarship to USC, which
is where she met Riesling. After they started dating, she quit school
and went to work for his magazine.
Detective Murphy: Whatever happened to her?
Detective David Garcia: I don't have any idea. That's another
seemed to indicate this might not be a basic break-in. She disappeared.
Just gone. We never got to talk to her. Far as we could tell, a few of
her things were missing from the house, but a lot were left behind.
Like she left in a big hurry. Her car was found abandoned in
Bakersfield two weeks after Riesling got killed, but we never found her.
Detective Murphy: When was the last contact or sighting
Detective David Garcia: We don't even have confirmation
of this, but
supposedly, she was seen at a ski lodge in Aspen in 2007. Some
co-worker of Riesling's claimed he'd seen her. But by the time anyone
got there to investigate, this mystery person was gone. But, the
witness could've been wrong. We don't know for sure that was her.
Detective Murphy: Why wasn't she given more attention? I've
little bit of research, but I didn't see her name very much in the
papers or anything.
Detective David Garcia: Well, for one, we didn't have
any real, concrete
evidence against her. There was no physical evidence linking her to the
crime scene. I mean, it is odd that she disappears right when he is
murdered, but at the same time, a battered woman dating a womanizer
finally leaves? Good for her. The timing is bad, but what if she
suddenly woke up and decided to hell with him? There have certainly
been stranger coincidences than her leaving the same time that her
abusive boyfriend is killed by a crackhead doing a B and E.
Detective Murphy: It sounds like you don't suspect her.
Detective David Garcia:Hell yes, I suspect her. We
searched for her like
crazy. It's just that we had nothing solid. We can't go around throwing
her name to the papers as a suspect when we have no solid evidence.
Plus, we kinda hoped that if we kept quiet, she would surface sooner or
later. But she never has so far.
Detective Murphy: So if she's a suspect, what's her
Detective David Garcia: She's pissed. Simple as that.
I'm no psychologist
and I'm not going to get into all that battered women syndrome and
stuff. But it seems pretty clear to me that a kid who has had a crappy
life, quits school and puts all her eggs in one basket with a guy, then
he starts beating her and sleeping around, then she might just get a
little mad. I think there is more than enough motive there. I just
can't prove it.
Detective Murphy:How do you think she's managed to stay
Detective David Garcia: For one, she's never had much of
anything at all.
Rich people go on the run and they always screw up because they've got
to have that Mercedes or they've got to try and move their money to the
Caymans or something. Poor people have done without their whole lives,
so it's not new to them. Natalie was doing okay when she and Riesling
were dating, but she's essentially been in the trailer park her whole
life. She had a real tough gig. It was easy for her to take a change of
clothes, leave her apartment, ditch her car, then slide into the
whisper stream and disappear.
Detective Murphy: Do you think she could've changed her
Detective David Garcia:That's entirely possible. One
report said that she
really underwent a change when she went to school. Dyed her hair, got
some contacts, and suddenly, she's hot. The little girl from the
trailer park started really making an impression on people. So I guess
it's possible that she could have reinvented herself again.
Detective Murphy: Sounds like finding her might be a
pretty tough job.
Detective David Garcia:Yep. Something we couldn't pull
Detective Murphy:Well, thanks for your time and we'll
let you know if
we come up with anything.
Detective David Garcia:Thanks.
Interview ends: 1:57 p.m.