The witness, Joseph Wilson, is a forty-nine year old white male. The interview was conducted at Yoknapatawpha Acres and recorded on a portable tape recorder with the witness's knowledge and consent.
- Detective Samantha Murphy
- Detective Ted Armstrong
- Joe Wilson
Detective Armstrong: Please state your name and address.
Joe Wilson: I'm Joseph Wilson. No one calls me Joseph, though. Call me Joe. I live at 1304 North Lamar.
Detective Armstrong: All right. Joe it is. Would that address be Oxford?
Joe Wilson: Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, right here in Oxford.
Detective Murphy: You have a job here at the nursing home?
Joe Wilson: Yes. I am the head cook for the Yoknapatawpha Acres nursing home. I have a feeling that I won't be here much longer, so I'm doing some searching for another job.
Detective Murphy: Why is that? Are you going to be fired? Is Mr.Landrigran unsatisfied with your work?
Joe Wilson: No, it isn't that, but I have been hearing some tales about the care that's given to the residents in the home. Or maybe I should say the care NOT given. If any of that stuff is true I don't even want to work here anymore.
Detective Armstrong: What have you heard, Joe?
Joe Wilson: It's common knowledge among the employees that the place isn't as clean and well kept as it should be. Mr. Landrigran insists that the place be cleaned before the inspectors from the Health Department come to pay a visit, but when that is done, everything is left to go back to the state it was in before the inspectors show up.
Detective Murphy: And what state would that be, Joe?
Joe Wilson: Dirty. I have heard things about the neglecting of the residents, but lately it's real bad. I've heard about bedsores on those patients that are bedridden. And it's been said that a few of the worst are just left for days in their own bodily wastes. Oh, they clean up the place a little, but not any real cleaning. I've heard that Landrigran even keeps the money for himself that is supposed to go for supplies, such as disinfectant.
Detective Armstrong: Did you know Jerry Shaw?
Joe Wilson: I'm sure everyone at the home knew him. He made himself known. He was a low-down crook.
Detective Armstrong: How do you know? Did he steal something of yours?
Joe Wilson: He tried to steal anything that he could carry, even food. He thought he could take food out of the kitchen and home with him so he wouldn't have to buy his supper. I had to watch him like a hawk. He didn't like me and I sure didn't like him. But that isn't all. I also heard that he was addicted to gambling and that's where his money went. The grapevine had it that he gambled with several of the staff at the home and even the guys who delivered goods. I heard him arguing with a couple of them about paying them what he owed from losing the bets.
Detective Murphy: What are their names? Do you think any of them would go so far as to want Jerry Shaw dead?
Joe Wilson: If you heard those arguments you'd agree with me that a couple of them would have killed him on the spot if they could've gotten away with it, but they didn't want to lose their jobs.
Detective Armstrong: Their names.
Joe Wilson: Mr. Landrigran for one. There was something going on between him and Jerry and just from guessing, I think Jerry had something on Landrigran because any other manager would have fired Jerry without a qualm. I heard them arguing several times myself and I spent all my time in the kitchen. Matt Hooper was another one. Matt sometimes would come to the dining area and have lunch. I heard Matt cuss Jerry out for not paying him for a gambling debt that Matt won and Jerry lost. I heard some of the nurses and aides complaining about Jerry, too. It was common knowledge that he was hitting on all of them.
Detective Armstrong: Jerry Shaw had to walk past the kitchen to get outside to smoke. Did something happen that day that made you follow him out and kill him?
Joe Wilson: Are you kidding? I couldn't leave the kitchen to mosey outside. We are constantly working in the kitchen. If we aren't preparing food, we're cleaning. It's hard work. But I did see Jerry walk past the kitchen to go outside. Probably to smoke.
Detective Murphy: Do you recall what time that was, Joe?
Joe Wilson: Yes, I do. I was always on the lookout for him so he couldn't get out my kitchen with something in his hands and when he left to go outside, we were preparing supper and I knew he'd be back in to eat. It was 3:20 according to the clock on the kitchen wall. We all watch the clock because the meals have to be prepared at the same time everyday and delivered to the rooms. We also have the small dining room where the visitors and staff can eat.
Detective Armstrong: Joe, it sounds like you keep the kitchen running smoothly. You shouldn't have a hard time finding another job.
Joe Wilson: I take pride in what I do, Detective, so I make sure my staff works hard to keep everything sanitary. I work right alongside of them, too. I believe the residents deserve good meals. The food has to be nutritious and also taste good. I had a row with Landrigran myself over the meat and produce he brought in a couple of times. I took one look at that stuff and threw it out. I went to Landrigan's office and told him I wouldn't serve that stuff to anyone and if he didn't get fresh, healthy meat and produce, I would contact the health department even if it meant losing my job. I never had a problem after that, but I lost all respect for Landrigran.
Detective Murphy: Thank you, Joe. You can go now, but give us a call if you hear or remember anything that sounds suspicious. Okay?
Joe Wilson: I sure will. Later
Interview ended: 3:25 PM