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Thu Sep 26 15:13:16 1996

Well this is the oddest thing I have come across on the net so far. It sucks you in. I found myself losing all track of time.

Anyway, it all seems so obvious to me. W killed V, G killed W and G was killed by one of the unsavory characters he must have been hanging out with to hide from y'all.
Unless. . . any possible way G intentionally angered someone enough so that he would be killed because he wanted to commit suicide but could not do it himself? Just a thought.
All this aside, it seems that all the players in this are dead, and the only people left are innocents on the sidelines. My question is, how can there still be a case? I mean
who would be arrested when its all over and done? It just seems to me that there will always be questions, some never answered but for the most part it is over.

Response: This web site will remain until the killer of Valerie Vilson is found.


Thu Sep 26 01:33:06 1996

Giblini's movements while visiting Val were very sporadic. He would come and go at odd hours (impression from diary entry). Yes he did have intercourse with Val and proably spent the night (condoms, video). He awoke early and left, not bothering to lock the door behind him. Enter Will. Quick, quiet execution of Val while she was sleeping. Remember Will had secretly read the computer diary (my belief). He knew all the in's and outs of the whole family/abortion/religion issue, was behind all the messages. This leads me to believe after killing her he moved her into the kitchen and administered the cuts to her abdomen (OR THE WOMB). This would fall in line with the whole family/abortion issue quite nicely and point detectives in the direction of the biological parents & Purity and away from Will. Only Will, techno hardware background, would be smart enought to zap the hard drive that way.


Wed Sep 25 22:08:25 1996

The views of those who've posted notwithstanding, I find it difficult to believe Purity may have murdered Valerie. If she did so, the answer to her motive is in scripture, perhaps the letter to Titus, a letter about which Valerie writes in her diary, admitting a lack of any knowledge of its existence in the Bible. One passage (two verses) in Titus reads:

"To the pure all things are pure, but to the corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are corrupted. They profess to know God, but they deny him by their deeds; they are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good deed."

Purity may have, in her rearing and post-abortion exposure to Christianity, come to invest a meaning to this and other Biblical passages that lead her to construe Valerie as "unfit for any good deed," and therefore seek a vengeance upon her sister.

This, however, I doubt, for Valerie recorded a conversation between sisters, in which Purity clearly indicates curiosities for unmentionable pass-times, saying that, after all, she is a teenager.

Instead, I have to believe that the search warrant issued "against" Purity Knight was more an attempt to ferret out information about Valerie's birth parents than it was an indictment of Purity. After all, it is Frank who is clearly more Biblically grounded than either of his daughter, and therefore more likely to be guided by such dogma.


Wed Sep 25 16:23:31 1996

First, this is a very interesting idea, to put a case on the web!

Now just a couple of things.

V said in her diary she got a picture of Will in the mail and put it on the fridge �to watch the door�. Now on the fridge you show a foto of some bald (make up?) guy. He does not look like Will and your caption says undidentified person. Any clue who that might be? And where did the foto of Will go?

The gun: I am sure that V did not have it just lying around but put it in a drawer (dresser most likely) or in a closet. Whoever shot her with that gun must have known of its existance I�d presume. She did tell G and W about having the gun. Maybe even her sister, I doubt it so. And if so, would her sister have given that info on to her family? Possible if the religious brainwash was complete. Since she was brought up very restrictive and with an immense guilt trip it seems imaginable. After all, she must have told her parents about the abortion. (What about her (ex-?) beyfriend by the way?) She might have snitched all kinds of info to her parents to avoid the �eternal damnation� etc.
Since V was shot in the back of her head from up close I assume she knew the killer AND trusted him enough to show him/her the gun. Then she must have gone to sleep or at least gotten high enough not to notice that the person came up behind her with the gun and shot her. (Did by the way anybody hear the shot?)

What I don�t quite get is that whitchboard stuff. Did you talk to the other participating friends? Who did the manipulation of that pointer? (No, I do not believe in those boards, I believe in smart manipulation)

Now the computer, the HD was destroyed in a very strange way. Why would anybody go through the trouble and induct a surge in the HD to fry it? If the killer did that (must have taken him some time) why not just take the HD out of the PC and throw it in the next river? Obviously there were no other diskettes around, not very likely... Stealing the HD and disposing is just as obvious as the distruction done to it. Hide evidence. Or was there a power surge between the last entry in the diary and V�s death? The electric company should be able to tell.
Was there any other data on the HD recovered?

How did the message about the GUN WILL NOT HELP YOU get on the HD? Hacked in through the modem is only possible if the PC was set to automatically pick up the phone once it rings. (Was the PC used as fax machine?) This seems to be not the case since she had an answering machine connected to her phone line. (or did she have two lines? Not likely since she did not seem to make much more use of the PC than type.) That means only someone in her appt could have typed that. Since she did not have a password set up then it would not take a rocket scientist to get at the file. I would assume that G wrote that, he seems to have been a person likely to try some psycho terror. After all, he seemed to have V under some kind of mindcontrol and dependency. Their whole relationship was very unhealthy and he did not really seem to care too much about her. Moving away and just disappearing all the time, then suddenly showing up with roses etc, pretty much always ending up in �rough sex�. Almost some kind of S/M relationship. V seemed to be that kind of person. Insecure, depressed, depending, not quite clear about herself. G on the other hand seemed to be a bit of a control freak, not very open or honest, getting �creepy� etc. I can�t see who else could have put that message on the PC but him. Fits in his mindset I think. W would have had to break in her appt, know about the diary (possible) but what would he get from typing this? Make her feel even more vulnerable and look for help and shelter through him? Was he even in the area?

Did you ever find the roommate that got a letter from Switzerland? And the computer geek that drove the car in AZ? You say he left the country, how do we know that and to what country did he go? Wasn�t he American born? Why would he need a visa?


Enough for now. I hope you can eventually unravel all this mess!

Response: The photo is probably William Giblini in makeup for a theatrical production.

The gun mentioned in the diary was found in the living room. It was not the murder weapon.


Wed Sep 25 14:16:47 1996

Am anxiously awaiting results of the search of Purity's house. A thought occurred to me that may tie up some loose ends. What if Jake coerced Purity into going to Valerie's new apartment, (assuming she told her "family" it's location) and that the two of them (Jake and Purity) committed the murder. This would explain the male blood on the cat's mouth, and the ritualistic bathing, dressing, and stabbing. Was Valerie's entire bathroom dusted for prints? Also the refrigerator and the photos on it? Is there a pending afadavit for search for the parents residence? I believe the three murders were coincidental, but unrelated. I believe Greg may have terrorized Valerie (the computer message), but that one or more of her family members killed her for the abortion and her current lifestyle. Greg killed his brother because of all the old bad blood between them and the new program was the straw that broke the camel's back. I think Greg was killed by one of his drug associates or criminal hacker associates.
I will be very interested in hearing your comments and I'm excited by the chat room you're building. Can't wait!

Response: Hope you found the search warrant. We are preparing several of the siezed items, among them are several faxes.

As for your questions1-The entire apartment was checked by state experts for prints. 2-The warrant is a search of Purity's parents home.


Wed Sep 25 13:27:04 1996

While reading this some of the file seemed strangely out of place...and some seemed it was added as in response of the Oujia Board. My first thought is to blame Greg for Val.'s murder,then her real parents(however, this seems unlikely).
My ultimate guess would be Purity...why you are asking because I think she blames Val for the reason their parents
treat her the way they do. And because of jealousy, Val has done everything that Purity would love to do, just to live life and not have dictorial parents of a God that she really believes isn't there.
Also, whoelse besides Greg knew Val new address besides Greg ,Will and Val's other friends the only person that lived out of the area is Purity.


Wed Sep 25 09:02:48 1996

First of All Greg Purchased the Condoms. She had the condoms. My theory is that at the least Greg did have sex with her. Then maybe Vaskin Kissoyan wanted to have sex with her also as a trio or after Greg had gone. She probably resisted and Vaskin Kissoyan and/or greg shot her to keep her quiet about attempted /actual rape. Greg feels guilty tells his brother, Vaskin Kissoyan finds out and kills greg's brother so he won't talk (Maybe greg and his brother might say Vaskin Kissoyan did it. Vaskin then kills greg and everybody with any direct knowledge is gone. I think Vaskin is the one.


Tue Sep 24 10:38:48 1996

Assumption:

The person who shot Valerie in the back of the head was the person who bathed and mutilated her abdomen.

Response: Correct, that is our assumption, do you find it faulty? If so, please describe your premise for another scenario.


Tue Sep 24 08:02:21 1996

Lets see: Valerie was having sex with someone (we don't know who).When they finished it, the man went out (probably to his house) and she stayed there, sleeping.When Giblini arrived he saw the comdoms on the floor and stuff.He got nervous, took the gun a shot her while she was sleeping.


Mon Sep 23 16:21:36 1996

RE: the search warrant for Purity Knight

Did you find the address and phone number Valerie gave Purity on about the 5th of January, 1995? What about the camping permit for Holly Springs that Valerie bought to disguise the trip to Jackson? Also, Valerie worked on creating a method by which she could communicate with Purity. What was it? Please share your findings.

(Incidentally, I presume the address on the warrant is fictitious, but may we presume that the rest of the document is factual as to what was subject to seizure?)

Response: No, we didn't find the phone number. We did find documents from the camping trip and several faxes which were sent through a copy store.


Mon Sep 23 13:50:28 1996

Extremely engrossing. This is better than alot of books I've read! You should charge money for this.
But I appreciate the time you put into it--very absorbing and a nice website.


Sat Sep 21 14:51:22 1996

I Think that her boyfriend did it.


Sat Sep 21 12:01:45 1996

I believe Greg killed his brother when he (a)found out his brother, William, was the killer. Or (b) was threatened to be fingered by his brother.


Fri Sep 20 21:50:02 1996

More fodder for the storm motif:

"...the black clouds of Armageddon..."


Fri Sep 20 14:48:39 1996

I have a few questions. The first of which is, Why is there no actual police report available on the Greg G. death? Second, From reading the other comments it sounds like he was shot in the back? If that is true, then why are there bloody (draggng) hand prints? I can envision someone grabbing their chest if shot there, but I can't see them grabbing their back. How else could the hands have gotten bloody enough to drag a smear across the floor and/or counters? Third: What cause the damage to the hard drive and do we know why it was damaged? Fourth, and this is tweaking my curiosity the most...I have done enough photofinishing for our local authoritys to know they don't move ANYTHING before the photo is taken. Do we know if Valeries body was moved after the discovery of her body? the reason I ask is this... It seems to me that if you are going to stab someone in the abdomen they would be laying on their back when you stab them, not on their side. Or does the angle of the stab wounds correlate to someone laying on theie side? Did the killer stab her repeatedly while on her back and then turn her over on her side? Since the body was not posed in any kind of "ritualistic, satanic, or Christ-like" position, my guess would be "no". So why is she laying on her side? Was she stabbed in another part of the apartment before being taken to the kitchen? Also, if the condome had been used to gather and distribut the blood it would have had to have been unrolled prior to the shooting. This would suggest someone Valerie consented to have sex with. To be specific, Greg, since he was taped purchasing them. Her journal indicates that she was not interested in sex with either Joey or Willl. Is the blood on the pillow mixed with lubricant? You stated to one commentator that the wound was very small. Wouldn't it have taken a huge amount of time to fill a condom with blood from a hole that wasn't letting a lot of blood out? AND, if the hole was oozing a lot of blood wouldn't there be a LOT of blood on the pillow? Especially if the killer was not Greg, because the condom would have had to have been unrolled AFTER the shooting, because she probably would not have agreed to sex with anyone else. One more thing, Aren't Greg and Will the only ones who knew that she had a gun in her possession? If so , it stands to reason that the only ones who could have infiltrated the journal would be them.

Response: That report is non available from Dade county. Perhaps we should create a fasimile or an abstract of that document.
1-We think the dragging prints are an attempt to write. 2-The hard drive was given a jolt of electricity or magnetism. 3-The killer mutilated the body and then posed it.


Fri Sep 20 12:31:48 1996

I just found this site and I think it's great!
You need to find Lisa Wood and see what she has to say
for herself. I also think that you really need to look into the parent situation -- that is who I think is responsible. Why isn't there more on Gregs murder?

Response: We're closing in on Lisa Wood. We'll post an update as soon as we find her.

New evidence from the victim's family in Mountain Home will be posted within the week.

Results from lab tests related to the Greg Giblini murder are expected soon.


Thu Sep 19 17:37:27 1996

I think Greg killed his Brother, William for killing Valerie, and eventually someone who was so consumed with the suspicion of Greg killing Val, killed Greg...Did that make any sense??? If not read it again once or twice..ALSO check up on that Joel character...HE KNOWS SOMETHING!!! Question...Does the male blood (third party) sample at Val's crime scene possibly be linked to William G.??? HEY!!! That hostile cat of Val's probably BIT whoever killed Valerie..Did either William or Greg's body have identifiable scars due to an animal bite??--NYPD/blues...

Response: We are currently evaluating Joel Shenton's testimony to determine whether further interviews are necessary.

DNA test results on a sample of William Giblini's blood are expected soon.

Neither Greg nor William had scars. According to staff at the Oxford SPCA, a cat bite would not necessarily leave a scar if treated properly.


Wed Sep 18 16:36:31 1996

I think the threats against Valerie came from different parties, with different objectives.

- 2/28, V gets a fax from Purity saying, "THEY KNOW WATCH OUT."

- 3/3, V gets mail containing " All the glossy pictures of mauled fetuses (feti?), six letters containing only quotes of Scripture in bright red marker. All from Arkansas."
- 3/31, V gets a phone call, " someone hissing about the black clouds of Armageddon."

- 3/20, V's computer and journal are broken into with the message, " YOU HAVEN T SEEN ANYTHING YET / WHAT ABOUT ALL YOUR SINS / YOUR GUN WON T HELP YOU FACE YOUR OWN SOUL"
- 3/28, V receives a postcard that says, "UMBRELLAS UP."

The first warning comes out of concern.

The second and third harass her for her role in Purity's abortion. Purity's warning tells us as much. The abortion retribution crowd knows only that Valerie assisted Purity in getting an abortion. The threats target her past, an action. These messages have an "eye for an eye" theme.

The fourth and fifth I doubt are from the 'abortion retribution crowd,' the ubiquitous 'they.' These threats do not target her for the abortion. The carry the message that is more sinister, that is to say, the message is "I'm in your head (or at least your computer)." These threats came from someone more intimate with Valerie, which is probably what made them noteworthy to her.

Response: Thank you for your insights. The distinctions you make between the various types of threats are definitely worth noting. We've been investigating the victim's family in Arkansas and their connections to anti-abortion groups. We should have an update presently.


Wed Sep 18 09:53:28 1996

***Rich man, poor man ***

"I remember once my brother and I had a lemonade stand. We sat out front of our house all day, 5 cents a cup. At the end of the day, we had like 1.20. When it came time to split the money, he only gave me forty cents. He said it was because he was older. This time, in our new business, I had 80 cents. I held all the chips." [Greg Giblini, IRC]

***Who (or what?) is the pusher?***

Don't squeal on the pusher [Greg Giblini, letter to ma]

*** Interactive Video Technology ***

(Armstrong) Was she [Valerie] connected to the interactive video technology your brothers marketed?
(GBG) yes
[Greg Giblini, IRC]

***Did he toss you a red herring?***

Cool Netscape Animations
"I've learned a bit about MIME types and how the Internet envelope strategy for content works. Here are some animations that show *server push* which is now known as *poor man's animation*. The *rich man* having an [sic] Java Application or Applet of course." [Vaskin Kissoyan, non-traditional resume]

Response: The "pusher" has not been identified. We're currently investigating the Rosebud connection. Your observation about the wording in Kissoyan's resume is interesting, thank you. We certainly have a lot of questions for him.


Wed Sep 18 08:32:03 1996

More fodder for the storm motif:

In Vicksburg we went into a bookstore where a large listless woman with hornrimmed glasses approached me and said "I think these are what you�re looking for." She thrust two books into my hand and then disappeared down an aisle. Wuthering Heights and Madame Bovary. Melodrama. Is this what I�ve become? [diary, 2/26, 7:13 p.m.]

'Wuthering' is a British term for 'turbulent weather,' or storm.


Tue Sep 17 20:14:26 1996

Interesting, the storm "motif" that runs throughout the crime. First, you've got the ghost of a civil war Rebel who offers Val this ominous warning via a "WeeJee" board:

"Then Briana asked whether it [the ghost] had any messages for us:
VAL
LOOK OUT STORM"

Then, Miss Valerie is out strolling one day and bumps into an old man, who offers this cryptic warning:

"As I passed the statue today I nearly bowled over a small stooped man. He was carrying a bright red umbrella. As I helped to steady him I said just to be conversational that he didn't need his umbrella today. He looked at me and said,

"A STORM IS COMING

"And then he shimmied around the other side of the statue and was gone. As in, vanished. There was a squirrel near the boot of the soldier but nothing more."

Finally, you've got Greg's note to his mom:

'The things you must think of me now. It is so difficult to explain right now. It seems that I have been caught in a tornado. I think I saw it coming. The wind picked
up. The sun turned off. The clouds formed a black sheet like an executioner's mask. And there it was. The twister. Sawing its way toward me. I knew then that I
had...have...have only two choices. It stares at me now. I may either stand and wait for the unknown. Or I may try and laso (sic) the tornado. I will. I shall laso the
tornado. And the sun will come out afterwards. A song once spoke words of truth to me.

"Never squeal on the pusher,
Don't lie to your mama,
Just do what you wanna,
And it'll be okay."

'I shall laso the tornado.
Always with Love,

G

Coincidence? Perhaps. But what's too coincidental often is not coincidental at all.

Response: These incidents are strange, but unfortunately we've yet to find concrete evidence of their relevance to the crime at hand.


Tue Sep 17 15:34:33 1996

The IRC chat session with Greg was a joke. There were too many interrogators and not enough listeners.

Greg believes William committed "the crime." The question implies the act of murder. The response may not. Here's what I read out of the IRC session:

-G did not kill Val.
-G killed "scarface." (Did W have a scarred face?)
-The motive for V's murder was jealousy.
-W killed V (or had her killed and was provided photographic evidence, which he passed on to G)
-V controlled purse strings of the development, at least, of an interactive video technology that W marketed.
-W was NOT "behind all this." (it is unclear whether G is answering the question of 'V's murder,' or 'the marketing of the software.')

Good call, detective Anderson, calling in Joey Shenton for questioning. Wonder why he got so testy when you pressed him on his programming activities? Says he used the computer at school. Might help to find out which one. Of course, the new semester's started, so I hope you've already been to the lab and removed that hard drive.

Response: Greg Giblini's IRC testimony is thought to be unreliable. However, we're currently investigating Rosebud. Will had no scars.

Thank you for the computer tip. Mr. Shenton has agreed to supply us with the floppy disks he used to save his work, and we'll take a look at the lab hard drives.


Tue Sep 17 16:53:54 1996

William knew of Valerie's newly resurrected relationship with her birth parents, as did Greg. I still believe that exploring the family circle is a valid path. However, after further study, I also posit the theory that William may have played Valerie's fears of retribution over Purity's abortion against her. After all, how better to explain the presence of warning message on Val's computer? William (and others, certainly, in his ken) has the necessary computer skills. Purity apparently does not, choosing to communicate by post and phone. It's a leap, but the folks in Mountain Home may be similarly equipped when it comes to computers.

The one thing that tied Greg, William and Valerie together appears to be the development of interactive video software, something Greg alludes to in the IRC session. Read between the lines in Val's diary.

In the beginning of Val's diary, Greg is leaving. She writes: "How many times the same conversation, offering and being refused, suggesting other ways, night jobs, anything. Will. And always: "I shall *not* be beholden." Greg departs to take a job producing documentary videos. His aversion to being "beholden" does not appear to be a dislike of being in someone's employ, but of being in the employ of someone in particular. This is so important to him that he'd sooner leave Val behind in Oxford to take a job in Nashville than make his current routine work. What is being offered and refused? What other ways are being suggested? Why a night job? The answers to these questions may point to the software development Greg alludes to in the IRC session.

Further, it is clear from the diary's beginning that Val knows William, and that she yearns to know him better, despite Greg's reservations. In fact, Val appears to trust William at times even more than she does Greg. Her diary catalogs the personal facets of her life, as diaries do. What we don't see is the business dealings, if any, that may have tied the three together.

Frankly, I don't think Greg or William killed Val, but I suspect William was involved in her murder. He probably arranged the killing, using Val's own fears against her (and as a rouse for investigators), or perhaps he found out about it after the fact; either way, he apparently approved of the action.

Response: Thank you for your observations. The nature of the Rosebud connection is currently under investigation.


Tue Sep 17 14:43:09 1996

I am interested in information about the childhood of the victim and of Greg. Were there any "unusual" events in their early lives?

Response: Neither the victim's adoptive parents nor Giblini's family report any abnormalities.


Mon Sep 16 23:31:31 1996

Where is "Pig" the cat now and who is caring for him (her?)?

If Pig was a nervous cat before, it surely did NOT help to be the only witness in the brutal murder of his new owner.

The blood around his mouth may have come from him sniffing Valerie, trying to find out what was wrong.

Response: Detective Anderson has adopted the cat and reports that the animal is becoming more docile. DNA tests show that the blood near the cat's mouth does not beong to the victim. Check here for details.


Mon Sep 16 17:56:54 1996

I LOVED VALERIE.


Sat Sep 14 20:12:32 1996

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Sat Sep 14 18:06:36 1996

I'm sure your forensic profiler has told you a lot about the killers psychology. Can you share some of that with us? I understand from the physical evidence that Valerie was killed by: 1. A male , 2. Someone with psychotic ideation of religious fantasy, 3. A person who knew about the sister's abortion, 4. A person who felt close to Valerie, i.e. they : "baptized her" in the ritual washing in the tub, then clothed her to "cover her modesty", and then "presented her to God" with the ritual stab woulds to show God that she had been punnished for her sins.
The above are all notions that can only have been learned by someone who has studied the Bible or been heavily indoctrinated in a fundamental Christian religion. Valerie
s parents are the only ones to have had an obsession with her being baptized and saved by Christ.
Also, what was your interest in the Square Book store? You were already interested in this when you interviewed Liz the neighbor the day after the murder. Were the clown books in the living room bought there? Was there a personal connection between Valerie and someone who works there?
Thank you for your comments.


Fri Sep 13 23:06:06 1996

interessiert mich:

If the mutilation of Valerie's womb is significant, perhaps
too is the connection to the father of Purity's aborted fetus. So the birth parents, despite their staunch religious beliefs, are not suspects. What, then, can we deduce about those people with whom Purity must have had near-daily contact? Let us suppose that Valerie's birth parents could not kill, no more than they could abort an unborn child. Is it fair to say these people run in circles, and that some of their acquaintances may be perfectly capable of such a crime? What then, about Jake? Can you clear him of this crime? You suggest Valerie's death came at the hand of a psychotic. If so, you cannot separate her support of Purity's abortion from the vengeance of a father steeped in religious faith, or someone with like religious values to whom the father is very close.

Response: We've been working closely with the Arkansas authorities and are currently preparing a dossier of evidence from the victim's family in Mountain Home.


Thu Sep 12 19:37:54 1996

In the IRC chat Greg said that his brother killed Val out of jealousy. In Val's dairy she writes of the unknown conflict between Greg and William. She mentions that she had told William about what was going on with Purity. It seems plausible to me that both William and Greg were in town on the same night that Val was killed - are there any sitings of both William and Greg together that evening? Could they have fought and William then went and killed Val making it look as if either Greg did it or someone in connection with Purity? If William was jealous because he couldn't have Val and she was one of the reasons he left his wife - that may explain the rage that went into the multilation. Is there any connection between Greg and dealing pot (which could explain why he was gone during the time that Val was murdered)?

Response: No sightings of Greg and William together were reported. William's whereabouts on the night of the murder are unknown.

A local check uncovered no drug connections.


Thu Sep 12 19:23:28 1996

In the IRC chat w/Greg he mentions that his brother sent him photos of Val. Have any of these ever showed up?

Response: No such photos have been found.


Wed Sep 11 18:11:03 1996

RE: The letter postmarked Switzerland,addressed to Tom Ash and found in Valerie's apartment.

"Response: Ash was not a former tenant. His name and the return address have been submitted to the federal authorities for a background check in hopes of generating further leads."

What is the latest on Ash? I feel that there must be a definite connection between Valerie and Tom Ash. What leads do you have regarding a possible relationship between them? Is he involved with clowns, as was Valerie (there were books on clowning found in the apartment).

Response: Ash was the victim's roommate. During the time of the crime he was on a training session with the National Guard.

Ash and the victim had just become acquainted. They had no previous relationship. The clown books belonged to the victim.


Wed Sep 11 16:15:07 1996

Gentleman: First, there is a frustrating amount of information that has been omitted. Coupled with questions and comments that you have failed to supply answers to, may leave any individual to wonder?
Can you supply additional informaton regarding the theater community in Oxford.

1) Is there any transfer of personal from Oxford to S.F and/or Miami?
2) Any bits of interesting inter-personal politics?
3) The caliber of talent the victims possessed?
4) What was on the "tapes" that Giblini was making? Where are those tapes and would you be willing to place still shots from the tapes for public viewing?
5) Please forward your thoughts on the direct possibility that the "bad guy" has attempted to integrate him/herself into the investigation?

Thanks for taking the questions, and if you are legitimate, thanks for all your work.

Response: The theatre community consists primarily of university productions. The Yoknapatawpha Arts council does sponsor special events, such as the "Dirty Work" production featuring the victim shortly before her death.

1-No, but we are examing thousands of airline reservations that occurred in these cities at the time of the crimes.
2-The victim was universally liked, while Greg Giblini was not. His abrasive and unsocialable personality seems to be the reason.
3-The victim was headed to a professional theatre to receive her Equity union card. Giblini worked in film production and was well regarded at work. 4-Excellent idea. I'll get some stills up from the tapes we digitized and we'll examine the other tapes for stills we can include. Note: Legal restrictions require us to get permissions from the persons depicted. This has made most of the video unavailable.

5-The possiblity that guilty parties are reading these files is something that we anticipated. No comment can be made regarding our preparations here.


Wed Sep 11 02:13:09 1996

I noticed in the picture of the condoms that they were of the lubricated variety. Was there any evidence of the lubricant or the spermicide generally found in the lubricant found on the victim or the bed?

Response: There were no signs of biological or chemical residue on the body. Possibly due to the cleansing of the body after death. The drains showed no unusual samples.


Tue Sep 10 15:55:28 1996

Okay, I haven't checked on this site since Greg was found murdered. I'm in school, so I haven't been following all summer. Are there any suspects in Greg's murder? What's this about him trying to write the killers name in blood on the wall?
Also, back to Valerie, has anyone examined the occult factor. Sure, I can hear the snickers now, but there are things that are unexplained. According to her diary, I would say that this is an extremely viable theory. mc

Response: No suspects, but lab tests, expected in the next few weeks, may shed some light on the Greg Giblini crime scene.

The scawled writing became illegible as the blood dried.

There is no public indication of occult activity in the area.


Tue Sep 10 09:53:59 1996

One question I think we are *all* losing sleep over is:
Where is Jake, Purity's boyfriend/impregnator?
What is his relationship with Purity's parents? Is there any indication that he has learned of his aborted child?
Certainly you must be keeping tabs on Jake, if not preparing to interview him...

Response: He has been interviewed, but has not returned authorization papers allowing us to share information. He has, however, indicated a willingness to cooperate.


Mon Sep 9 22:17:13 1996

To follow up on my last comment:

Greg's connection to the crime are remote at best. I've come to this conclusion after much thought.

It is possible that Greg formed a connection with Valerie's birth parent's, for there is a hint at Greg's acquaintance with them in Valerie's journal, and as her lover, Greg must have been well versed in the Val's emotional trials. Even so, it is unlikely at best that Greg formed a connection with them meaningful enough to turn on his lover and execute her murder. For one, there is nothing in his bio to suggest that he would be amenable to such persuasion. Second, the evidence (and coroner) suggest that Valerie's murder was not a sex crime, despite the evidence of condoms linked to Greg found at the scene. It was apparently common knowledge that they were lovers, so condoms containing his semen should be no surprise unless Valerie was obsessed with household cleanliness. Lacking such information (and she was, after all, a graduate student), the condoms are dismiss-able.

So let us turn our attention to the crime scene as described (I assume the picture at http://www.crimescene.com/crime/index.html is authentic as to the crime scene). First, it was stated that the body (prior to or after the crime) had been bathed. The photo suggests that if this is true, the perpetrator must have dressed the body. I cannot imagine why, but will list it as an inexplicable fact. That said, there is nevertheless much more we can derive, even third hand, from the crime scene. It has been demonstrated that what can be recovered at a crime scene, utilizing basic principles of psychology applied to the physical evidence, is an impression of the perpetrator--residual psychological traces of the individual who created the world of that crime scene and lived in it for a given time. Look at the coroner's report.

" The victim was shot at a close range, with a .22 pistol. The bullet entered the base of the skull, from the rear. Due to the small caliber entrance, there was a minimum of bleeding. The bullet was recovered in good condition."

And,

"At approximately 7 AM the victim was placed in the kitchen and disfigured. At least 27 puncture wounds were inflicted upon the victim after death. While most of the punctures were superficial, several reached 5 inches below the surface of the skin."


First, the report suggests Valerie died of a gunshot wound and was subsequently moved to the kitchen for mutilation. Were this not the case, the bodily damage to Valerie would have been more extensive, suggesting a battle between the victim and assailant. Simple human preservation.

Second, the mutilation suggests a target for the assailants anger. Look at page 4 of the coroner's report. Note the area in which the stab wounds are directed: lower abdomen, pubic bone region. (It would be interesting to know whether any of the stab wounds obviously targeted the genitalia.)

We cannot know much more about the crime scene from the information provided. Nevertheless, we can conclude the following. This is not the work of a scorned lover, for while a lover jealous of infidelity or other affronts might kill, he (or she) would not likely target the lower abdomen or pubic region for mutilation, but perhaps the head, mouth, or heart, the source of the problem as it were. So what, then, does the mutilation tell us. Anatomically, we're looking at what is generally called "the womb." Who, among all involved, would be most interested in marking the corpse with a mutilated womb? Perhaps those most concerned about how this woman may have violated the integrity of the womb, as God gave it to Eve.

One more thing: I think you're looking at two (perhaps three; I cannot speak to G and W Gilbin) unrelated murders.

Response: The birth parents had no recollection of Greg Giblini. It is unlikely they had a relationship.

That is the original photo. No one knows why she was killed in bed, bathed, dragged to the kitchen, mutilated, and dressed. Our profiler believes the Vilson crime scene was the act of a psychotic.

Your assertions regarding the symbology of the womb are significant, thank you.


Mon Sep 9 21:24:18 1996

Totally agree with last comment. Look closely at Frank.


Mon Sep 9 16:49:44 1996

Valerie knew the position she was in after standing by Purity during her abortion of Jake's baby, [Valerie] "� And I am scared I left loophole somewhere, some alibi unwoven�" She knew on 2 Feb 1995 that Purity's parents would be able to hold her responsible, and that given their religious convictions, they probably would; and that her straight-forward willingness to help Purity get an abortion could be masked by neither her nor Purity. The reason Valerie moved to a safehouse in the first place was to mitigate repercussions (harassing phone calls, bricks through windows, etc.) that were clearly resulting from this otherwise benevolent act. Further, the perpetrators of the harassment escalated these activities. Toward the end, the safety of her own privacy was violated when, on March 20, she read in her own computer diary:

****************************************************
YOU HAVEN�T SEEN ANYTHING YET

WHAT ABOUT ALL YOUR SINS

YOUR GUN WON�T HELP YOU FACE YOUR OWN SOUL
****************************************************

Of all the sins Valerie may or may not have committed, none loom larger than taking Purity to the city for an abortion. Any connection to Greg Gilbin in this respect is specious at best. Look to Valerie's birth parents for the source of her murder.

Response: That is where I've been looking for the past few weeks. Expect to see the results from our recent search of their Arkansas home.


Mon Sep 9 16:28:01 1996

Originally created on January 15, 1995.

She was found dead on 4/2/95
How can that be?

Response: In January 1995 we featured crime reports from the community. The site was dedicated to the Vilson case shortly after her death.


Mon Sep 9 10:30:28 1996

Why hasn't the original crime scene report been entered? I understand about keeping some information back from the public, but you could purge it of that info. Please let us read the report.

Response: There was a file error that destoyed the file. Until you mentioned it we were not aware of the problem. It is now repaired and available. View it here, or in the detective files.

Should anyone ever find an odd file, please report it to [email protected].


Mon Sep 9 06:54:56 1996

is this a real story?

Response: Questions regarding the authenticity of this site should be directed to [email protected] with the subject heading "Faulkner".


Mon Sep 9 00:48:24 1996

To me the person in the photo looks more like a girl and not a guy.

Response: The man in the photograph has been positively identified as William Giblini. He is possibly wearing theatrical makeup in the photo.


Sun Sep 8 13:46:51 1996

I am a retired law enforcement employee; 4 yrs. Sheriff's dept, 5 yrs. District Attorney. I have read all the information available on the case and do not find any documentation relating to Greg Giblini's death other than passing mention of it in the comments file. Could you please elaborate or tell me where to find the info?
For me, the most troubling aspect of this case is the ritual style of mutilation of the female victim. Past examples of this type of mutilation fall within specific profiles, as I'm sure you know. The ritual bathing of the female victim (and perhaps of W. Giblini) and the sites of the "overkill" stabbings indicate a strong religious background of the killer. The DNA evidence found on the cat indicates a male perpetrator. I think the Arkansas investigation into the victim's biological family and their associates will yield some valuable information. It is very plausible that Frank (bio father) had many connections with MANY types of people from his association as an attorney. You didn't mention what type of law he practices, criminal or civil? I'm sure you see where I'm leading with this line of thought.
It is evident in the diary that the victim was aware or had intentions that Greg read these files at some point. I believe he did read them, with or without her knowledge. I think she was making some of the entries consciously neutral in regard to the other men in her life with the thought in mind that Greg would be reading it. I think he made some comments to her that were noted in the diary and the online chat session that were "clues" he was trying to give her, toying with her psycholigally to frighten/control her.
If G. Giblini is indeed the killer of the female victim, I believe he would have to be involved with Valerie's parents somehow, and I think that is unlikely. I say this because I truly believe that the investigation of the father will reveal very pertinent information.
My theory in a nutshell: that the father, or someone he hired (most likely) perpetrated the first murder, that G. Giblini killed his brother, W. Giblini, and that G. Giblini was killed by someone completely unassociated with the first two murders. His history and personality indicates that he was involved with criminal types and that he might be involved in unrelated criminal acts (perhaps involving computer fraud or hacking programs.

This site is a brilliant idea; not only to sollicit ideas and information, but is a real stroke of genius to attract (what was at the time started) the suspect himself who you knew would be monitoring the investigation (and most likely online.)
I commend all of you who are making this experiment in "online detecting", you're doing a fine job.
P.S. One suggestion: that you follow-up on the W. Giblini DNA problem..This is really necessary to include/eliminate him from the first crime scene. Suggest you inquire about G. Giblini autopsy, obtain and tissue sample retained (several may still be frozen at the Medical Examiner's office). These samples really should be DNA tested.
I will look forward to further developments and your comments.

Response: The Greg Giblini murder is among the three thumbnail sketches at the bottom of the main page. View it here.

DNA test results are anticipated soon.


Sat Sep 7 13:53:43 1996

Pls give a description of how you envision victim #3 GBG was killed. It looks as if he was killed from behind, fell forward onto the bathroom counter striking his head against the countertop. Slumped to floor....A few unexplained points however: If he was attacked from behind...how did the killer do it. The shower is across from the sink and would have been behind GBG when he was attacked. It looks as if the shower door is one that opens outward so the killer could not have hidden inside for a surprise attack...and it could not have been opened and then closed again after the murder because the body is in the way. So how could he have been attacked from behind? What is the significance of the blood pattern on the shower stall door? Why was the medicine cabinet open?

Response: The victim died from massive internal bleeding caused by a severed aorta. The blood prints are from his struggle to stand and possibly to fight his attacker. The attacker may have followed Greg into the bathroom from another location in the apartment. The blood stains on the shower stall door were caused by the spray resulting from the victim's being shot at close range.


Sat Sep 7 13:05:43 1996

Hey ffolks this thing with the shooting evidence of V just doesn't flush...The coroner's report says she was laying on her side when she was shot: If she was laying on her left side...How did the blood get on the pillow. If she was laying on her right side how did the shooter place the gun to her head at the close proximity that allows for the angle of entry?

Response: The victim was almost certainly lying on her right side when she was murdered. Her assailant wedged the muzzle of the gun between the victim's head and the pillow, possibly to muffle the sound of the shot.


Sat Sep 7 12:51:06 1996

Why is there only one pillow...from its positioning it looks as if V was used to sharing the bed with someone...if so shouldn't there be a second pillow?

Response: The victim only possessed one pillow.


Sat Sep 7 12:44:07 1996 Have you checked the toilet plumbing for the missing condom?

Response: We did. None was found.


Sat Sep 7 12:35:56 1996

If the photo was taken at the crime scene, this means that it was lifted, bathed, dressed, and laid out on the kitchen floor before the photo was taken: so how long after a body is dead does the blood slow up? The blood from the puncture wounds to the victim's belly is of a significant amount...Is this possible?

Response: The victim's heart stopped pumping blood immediately after she was shot. However, the abdomen and groin areas normally have a significant supply of blood flowing through them. The wounds to those areas released the blood which had been circulating when the victim was killed.


Sat Sep 7 12:31:49 1996

Resending incomplete message: Perhaps a simple explanation is all that lies in Lisa Wood's uncooperative behavior. Its possible that she simply knows something she shouldn't and has decided that her life is more important than becoming involved in the murder case.

Response: We're currently tracking Lisa Wood and expect to have more information on her whereabouts soon.


Sat Sep 7 12:29:16 1996 Why are the dates in V's diary out of sync? In the diary pages - What does the three digit number next to the date mean? Why are there great lapses of time occurring between her writings? Are there signs that the diary files have been tampered with?

Response: The three-digit numbers next to the date apparently correlate to the victim's weight on that day. The victim apparently did not write in the file on a daily basis. Because of the damage sustained to the hard drive and the extreme measures used to recover the data, any evidence of tampering with the original file has been destroyed. No access logs have been recovered from the drive yet.


Sat Sep 7 04:52:09 1996

Okay ffolks, just a wild twist, but as far as motive is concerned the only real one that I can see that would stick in all cases is this one: jealousy, computer info and money. So I shoot to the wind. 1) re: jealousy - G. doesn't trust V. so he has this computer hacker friend check into the computer diary to see what's really up with V. and possibly J. or W.G. Finds that there is an interest if not a physical affair. 2) re: jealousy - G.B.G. and W.G. already have sibling rivalry, I question the fact that one has much money the other lives from job to job, but both are computer oriented. 3) re: jealousy and computer info with tie-in of third unidentified party involved. Possibly hacker friend of GBG. Also into computers, but also into making money from computer. Learns of WG "code" through diary. Begins to scheme with GBG on a way to extort a "piece of the pie" by setting up murder to frame WG if necessary, but they include a double frame using the information of P's abortion in an attempt to lead the cops towards the anti-abortion leads. 4) re the diary: It seems that GBG has a little to much insight into V and her dreams etc. look to the connections of the storm, etc. V. herself makes continual statements that they are not in sync or tuned in to one another. 5) the crime scene of victim #1: V.'s positioning: possibly the psychological trauma of GBG...fact is he cared. GBG handles the body while hacker friend handles the computer. 5) Hacker friend and GBG head for the hills..., but along way make plans to meet with WG to make arrangements for their piece of the pie, planning that V.'s murder will be blamed on anti-abortion situation...things go sour - WG killed. 6) The two head for Santa Rosa and while there start their own battle and GBG loses this time.

Hey its a shot....but whoever those unidentified prints and unidentified blood samples go to are probably the same person. Ten bucks says its our friend the hacker the same one traveling with GBG when the police in AZ pulled him over.


Thanks. Let me know.


Sat Sep 7 03:29:24 1996

The stabbing to the victim's uterus area is a clear attachment to the abortion situation and the later phone calls and mail: whether this is a connection to someone who was angry at her for her involvment in P's abortion or a connection to someone that she told about P's situation. Either may give you a new link or cutdown on the number of suspects out there. Thanks. Great site.


Sat Sep 7 00:11:39 1996

I think her boyfreind did the murdering. Ask her boyfreind
some questions and find out if he did it. Our if someone
else did it.


Fri Sep 6 16:37:41 1996

This is not what it seems..has anyone ever heard of the
'Shadow Man', Ray Petrousky?..this is too much of a coincidence,
or is it? Petrousky was last seen living in Barlhelm, Washington with
a girl named Rachel Pheldman. who disspaeared..and it appeared to be a domestic thing
but the ties got more and more..well..serial. and Petrousky was able to escape in the
commotion.

Response: That case made its way to our desk a year ago. He could not be connected to the case due to an airtight alibi. He was in a county jail at the time Vilson was killed.


Fri Sep 6 08:35:12 1996

Greg, who has a mental problem, killed Valerie because he believed she was sleeping around on him. Will came in after the fact, the cat bit him, and he freaked out and left. Greg killed will because he thought he was sleeping with Valerie. Greg was killed because he was a liability to someone who didn't want to be investigated. (The Armenian?)


Fri Sep 6 08:31:12 1996

My Theory:

Will killed Valerie because she was the one thing of Greg's that he couldn't have. Greg killed Will because he killed Valerie. The foreigner killed Greg because of an unrelated problem in their relationship.


Thu Sep 5 15:25:00 1996

Evidence
Photo of Envelope

Description
"This unopened envelope was found on a kitchen counter. It is addressed to Tom Ash, 1013 University Avenue #4, the same as the crime scene.
The return address is from Switzerland. Federal law precludes opening the letter or divulging the name on the return address."

Alrighy, who the hell is this Tom Ash guy!!

Is he a former resident of Apt. #4? if so, how long ago did he reside there? Why? Did this Ash guy leave a forwarding address? Is this the only letter addressed to Ash found in #4? Cannot the Sheriff go into Post Office records and find change of address cards or requests for forwarding mail?

The letter has been sent by someone *in* Switzerland to
T. Ash (doesn't sound like a Swiss name to me) What's the Swiss connection?

Response: Ash was the victim's new roommate. His name and the return address have been submitted to the federal authorities for a background check in hopes of generating further leads.